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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Kent</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> further to this – I am at a government school with similar
issues in respect to filtering websites. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Our school in their wisdom whether to cut
costs – do not know why this was done, decided 12 to 18 months ago to
only use education channel and associated firewall filtering. This caused some
issues that were slowly overcome, but in some VCE units and the need to review
search engines other than Education Channel caused major problems. I have unblocked
a number of sites for my students to use but there are always those sites you
need that are filtered out – in theory it is not too bad as it made
teachers think about sites that are most appropriate for students although for
senior students it is quite inhibiting. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am a prolific user of wikis (Wikispaces)
and other social networking applications to support student learning. Most of
these sites I have created are private, secure sites using SSL / encryption
technology. In the last 2 months due to issues with some proxy bypass
applications used by some students at my school to bypass the education channel
that use sites with https: prefixes the decision was made by those in at DEECD
and those who control our internet and education channel decided to block all
https: sites to students at our school.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What are the consequences of this? The
students no long can access my on-line wikis at school. The curriculum is on
them – fortunately they can access them at home. My plan to use them for collaborative
on-line group work for year 11 can not be done effectively and it has caused
more frustration to students who are trying other inappropriate tools to bypass
the firewall.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The point being – if the wikis were
not “private” or unsecure they would work. But we privacy and the
need to provide a safe on-line working environment for students and by blocking
these sites is compromising the learning of students. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>History: I contacted Russell Blackie at
DEECD – who controls the content of Education Channel he is aware of the
issue but it is the company that controls the servers are the one that controls
the firewall to block sites. To me it was easier to block <u>all</u> https:
sites and they communicated back to me through our technicians that they can
not unblock specific site – I find this surprising. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am writing this out of frustration –
and in some way it is similar to what <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kent</st1:place></st1:country-region> is experiencing. If the
department is committed to using more Web 2.0 technologies effectively in the
curriculum then issues such as this needs to be resolved. I would like to think
within the next month or so.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Have anyone else on the list had similar
experiences? How were they resolved? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From a frustrated IT teacher with ideas in
using social networks, wikis etc in the curriculum I am interested to resolve
this issue for myself and my students<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:navy'> thanks for initiating the topic “Filtering software overkill”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 11 May 2008 9:48 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> filtering software
overkill!..fireworksMX qn.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Does anyone else use 'surfcontrol' (it
gives a big white box with red or blue lettering when banning stuff).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Our school does and its driving me batty! I aint the
techie as you know, but it NOW blocks teacher tube, god tube(yes that exists
too) and all video on the google link.(we already had youtube, myspace and
facebook banned for 'social software link reasons' and I coped with that
before...but now...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My school is going backwards. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Apparantly its an american program..shoulda guessed!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Its basically killing my classes now...so much for moving
forward and embracing technology.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I desperately want to promote use of multimedia at my school
and have just finished some intense HTML programming which uses links to this
stuff for creating pages at the middle school level but now it seems all that
effort might be for zilch.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Yes, I sent an email to the techie about my concerns, but so
far, no responses.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>For others in the Catholic system reading this, what filters
do you use, and could you email me a list of their names please so I can pass
it on to my principal...its gone too far for me not to speak about it now I
think.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>About the fireworks program..we have the MX version...has
anyone got any nifty starter level stuff they could email me please. I have no
resources for this one and would love to use it..oh, I also have never used it
so will be learning it too. Targetting years 8/9 level...but have some smart cookies
in that lot.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Roland
Gesthuizen</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sun 5/11/2008 2:09 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> eLearning mailing list; Year 7
- 10 IT Mailing List; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Year 12 IT Apps] Privacy
fears over student register</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>As you know, I am an passionate advocate for schools to make good use
of learning technologies in the classroom and ICT to assist the school
administration. <br>
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Last week, I briefly discussed with a departmental Ultranet representative,
some of my concerns about the privacy issues regarding the construction of the
student registry. Perhaps this was an unfair question but I was surprised that
nobody had been briefed in detail about this. On previous occasions, I have
tried to raise this with the AEU but the emails seem to have spiraled off and
into the ether. Perhaps the mandated requirement that all state school
leaders adopt Ultranet as a performance goal, it's deep embedding into our
schools and bundling with several different initiatives has confused things.<br>
<br>
I harbor some genuine fears that this student registry could put students'
privacy at risk. <br>
<br>
You can read the full Herald Sun newspaper story about the pending legislation
or the attached printable version: <br>
<a
href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23661243-2862,00.html">http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23661243-2862,00.html</a><br>
<br>
Despite the wishes of former governments, the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region> card was rejected on very
much the same issues and more recently an updated Medicare card. <br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Card">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Card</a><br>
<br>
Now is a good time to explore this whole new area and give consideration to the
implications of what is being planned or the legislation that is before the
Victorian parliament.<br>
<br>
Now is a good time to ask questions.<br>
<br>
Regards Roland<br clear=all>
<br>
-- <br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Roland Gesthuizen</st1:PersonName> - ICT Coordinator
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<a href="http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
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