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Go to the microsoft training packages site. It has all the training
packages free.<br>
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Cheers<br>
Anton<br>
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McDonald, Debra A1 wrote:
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<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2">This is a
great link...... but has anyone out there found a good tute sight for
the new 2007 office products... My school has rolled out the new
versions and FP is no-longer a program but there is another program
that seems the same but under another name (can not think of it at
moment - at code camp oz and having brain crammed with .net and virtual
enviro info... to much information............) , and it has a new
options.. as we have education version - no manuals and hence have
buckles change of finding what I need easy....</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">so please if you know of
any tutes or even better good tutes... I would be extremely grateful..
have to start teaching this on wed and it has not been installed on
laptop so only have mon and tue night now.....</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">cheers</font></div>
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color="#800000">Debra M<sup>c</sup>Donald<o:p></o:p></font></font></font></span></div>
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<div><font color="#800000" face="Lucida Calligraphy" size="2">Network
Manager</font></div>
<div><font color="#800000" face="Lucida Calligraphy" size="2">Lyndhurst
Secondary College</font></div>
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<div><font color="#800000" face="Lucida Calligraphy" size="2">Cranbourne</font></div>
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5996 0144</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Here's a link to a site
for FP2000 tute stuff. It also has tutes on other packages. I tend to
keep links like this that I stumble on in my favorites list..they come
in handy occasionally.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Handy ref for those who
may wish to explore/use it.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">Cheers..</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">KB.</font></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sun 4/20/2008 10:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure
page qn..<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Hi
Kent,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">The
WAMPserver I have just installed on my notebook, and it is all offline
viewing (not via network or internet), all the students need to do is
copy their website folder onto a USB, bring it to me, I drag it into
the www folder in the wamp directory, open firefox and type
“localhost/theirwebfolder” and hit enter. You just need to make sure
you close wamp down when you’re not using it from a security point of
view I guess.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">My
school network allows me to do virtually no more than what the students
can do. I pay for my own (commercial) server so that I can discover and
learn, and because I have fun doing these things (ok so I am warped!!)
In reality if you wanted to set up a website for a virtual team you
would need to have a domain name and have it hosted by a commercial
server, and therefore you would probably use joomla, drupal, phpnuke,
xoops etc or one of the many other CMS that can be installed on a
server with 3 clicks, using cpanel and fantastico. But that does not
invalidate the credibility of this outcome, as I said, my students have
really enjoyed it, and they have learnt a lot and worked exceedingly
well. I tossed up whether I would show them what you can do with a
commercial server, but in the end I ran out of time (I never seem to
have a full class for one reason or another!!), and thought it was
unnecessary and perhaps would be confusing to some of them. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">The
students who have put their websites onto the internet did it from home
(they can access their school directory from home) They also have paid
for a commercial server, as web design interests them. Currently I use
siteground (and I have nothing to gain from mentioning them!!) I think
it is well worth the small amount of money to pay to have the ability
to create your own websites, play in the sandpit, and for what I pay
per year it is incredible PD!! </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Visual
thinking? Did I miss something? I thought that was U4O1 (Task 3)??</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Good
luck Kent – the kids will love this Outcome, but you can be thankful
that the hard slog of database is over!! I have attached a file on
“Quick Front Page Tutorial” for you – you may need to change save
locations (presently MY Docs) and the topic of the website (you could
change Armadale to Victoria or YourTown to make it more relevant)</span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 20 April 2008 8:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure
page qn..</span></p>
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Ros,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">unlike
your good self, my network doesnt have the set up where I can do some
of the things you have done and that we have previously discussed
either here or at the various face to face times we've met. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Essentially,
I am limited to what the software we have available can do, added to
that, the students I have this year are, shall we say...just plain hard
yakka! (last year's group of 15 was easier than these 3 and a damn site
more co-operative!). The proverbial brick wall is more intelligent!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">At this
stage I have just battled to get them through oc1 and am about to start
the prelim work for oc2...should prove interesting..</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">The visual
thinking..might use a simple tool like word art here to keep it simple,
and they know how to use it already..theres a bonus. We used
dreamweaver last year but will stick with FP this year. (KIS principle.)</span></p>
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tuned....</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><i><span style="color: blue;"
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style="color: blue;" lang="EN-AU">,</span></i><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color: blue;" lang="EN-AU">I.T.
co-ordinator</span></i><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color: blue;" lang="EN-AU">St.
Brigids Catholic Sec. College</span></i><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</a></span></i><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="color: black;" lang="EN-AU">|<3|\|7
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Personally
I would suggest students choose from the following tools for virtual
team collaboration:</span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Symbol;">·</span><span
style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Discussion
forum (personally I would consider this as absolutely essential)</span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Symbol;">·</span><span
style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Wiki</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Symbol;">·</span><span
style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">FAQ
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style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Blog
(perhaps with ability to attach files)</span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Symbol;">·</span><span
style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">IM/chat</span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Symbol;">·</span><span
style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">File
uploading and sharing</span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Symbol;">·</span><span
style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Polls
or surveys</span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Symbol;">·</span><span
style="font-size: 7pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Email
distribution/mailing lists</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I
would also suggest that secure login is essential (can be shown with a
screen dump which then links to the secure page) Some of my students
used the drawing tools in word, paint or photoshop to create images of
various tools.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Some
of my students also used javascript/cgi scripts which can be easily
found on the web – for login and chat etc</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">There
are other tools for virtual teams (video conferencing etc) but above
are probably the easiest to show – remember that the website only needs
to be a prototype, it does not HAVE to work – I’ve installed WAMP
because some of my students did go the extra mile so it will be nice
for them to see their site working (although the ones that did the
extra scripting tend to have their own web servers anyway!! One just
uploaded his to the web for me to view which was nice! (Siteground is
so cheap, well worth it!)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I
might also say – the students just LOVED this outcome – some of mine
are not strong and their attitude can at times be a little less than
acceptable, but even in the design phase I had some who created page
layout designs for 8 pages (when I expected them to create 3 pages and
the site map)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I
have yet to do Database, as I felt if I started with databases they
would all be running for the door! O2 has given many of them much
needed confidence.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Hope
this helps</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Bill Oldham<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 20 April 2008 7:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure
page qn..</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">Hi Roz,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">This is
my first time with this SAC 2 and I am a bit nervous as I approach it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">When
you mention four collaborative tools, which ones do you have in mind?
To me they might be email (Web 1.0), Private access blog, a wiki, rss
feeds, various Google apps and perhaps Flickr and YouTube and
TeacherTube.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">But I
would feel more reassured to hear from you and others what you expect
your students to use in your class.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">Regards,
Bill Oldham (Chisholm TAFE)</span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Meadows, Roslyn <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] RE: OC2 Virtual coll..secure page
qn..</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Hi
Kent,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">I
allowed my students to use the predesigned website templates in
FrontPage, but in themselves I do not believe that they would
adequately provide a website for this outcome, as this only provides
one of the tools for virtual team collaboration (I expected them to
show at least 3, but said preferably 4 tools should be used, all but
the weakest students found it easy enough to provide 4 tools for their
website). In the end not many of them used the templates, but chose to
design their site from the ground up.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">The
predesigned discussion template only provides discussion, and the
project template provides a discussion and the customer support
template provides a support forum and a FAQ page.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Certainly
show them to your students, and they can certainly cut and paste
sections of these templates into their own website, but they will still
need to add much more to their virtual team website for it to address
the requirements of this outcome.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Cheers</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Head of ICT Implementation</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; color: navy; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';">Head
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 20 April 2008 2:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> OC2 Virtual coll..secure page qn..</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Outcome
2 Virtual Collaboration..</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Using
front page, a web can be created incorporating a self registration
page for a discussion forum. What is the consensus from you guys about
using this as an option to allow 'secure virtual collaboration'. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Its
available on the page selection feature with FP to build into webs and
we are required to build into our site a virtual discussion forum. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Any
comments on this idea. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Paula C.
is this a legitimate approach?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Visual
thinking.. anyone got a magic bullet for that one yet? We all had our
different approaches last year on the VT approach.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-AU">Kent Beveridge</span></i></strong><i><span
style="color: blue;" lang="EN-AU">,</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color: blue;" lang="EN-AU">I.T.
co-ordinator</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color: blue;" lang="EN-AU">St.
Brigids Catholic Sec. College</span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color: black;" lang="EN-AU">email..
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</a></span></i></p>
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b3\/3r1D93 ? ;-)</span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color: black;" lang="EN-AU">Wishes
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Validation
is used to<br>
D. prevent inaccurate data from entering the system<br>
<br>
It would have been better if D had read: D minimise inaccurate...<br>
but, given that it didn't, D is the *most* correct answer<br>
<br>
because, as has been pointed out, validation (manual or electronic) can<br>
never prevent inaccurate data from entering a system; eg the form that
the<br>
entry operator is using may have been filled out incorrectly etc<br>
<br>
And (for the sake of my pedantic soul) I no longer think spell checking<br>
should be considered as a validation technique because it is not
actually<br>
checking the validity of the data, but the validity of the spelling.<br>
"Correct" spelling is a convention: fish, fyche, or ghoti are all
written<br>
representations in the English language of those animals you eat with
chips.<br>
If the data were about types of animals found on a plate then 'ghoti'
would<br>
be correct, but becuase it does not follow convention it becomes
difficult<br>
to understand. And isn't that one of the purposes of conventions: to
give us<br>
a common frame of reference?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Robert T-A<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: "Mark Scott" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:msc@luther.vic.edu.au"><msc@luther.vic.edu.au></a><br>
To: "'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'"<br>
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:11 PM<br>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's
report<br>
<br>
<br>
Forget machine validation.<br>
<br>
The question is talking about manual validation.<br>
<br>
Checking for typos etc is clearly checking for accuracy.<br>
<br>
Mark Scott<br>
<br>
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On Behalf Of Mark Kelly<br>
Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 2:24 PM<br>
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's
report<br>
<br>
Hi Mark<br>
<br>
Yes, I include spell checking as validation, and I agree that the other<br>
options are all bad, but I don't accept that validation can check that<br>
data are accurate.<br>
<br>
If a person's age is entered as 19 into a database, validation can't<br>
prove the person is 19 or not. All it can do is tell whether 19 is a<br>
reasonable age or not under the circumstances (e.g. 19 would not be<br>
reasonable if the database stored data on newborn babies, or if it were<br>
an old folk's home).<br>
<br>
And looking at databases' validation options, you can check for data<br>
range, type, existence, uniqueness, even its existence in a limited<br>
list, but not "accuracy" :-)<br>
<br>
The Q does not mention calculations, but what I tried to say was that<br>
testing accuracy is a role of testing, not validation (and my kids<br>
frequently confuse testing and validation (and evaluation, come to think<br>
of it).<br>
<br>
It's mainly annoying that the question contradicts the Study Design<br>
glossary, which is mandated knowledge. But then again, it's Friday<br>
afternoon and most things annoy me then.<br>
<br>
Mark Scott wrote:<br>
> Not sure I agree with you on this one.<br>
><br>
> Checking data entry for spelling mistakes is validation (I think).<br>
><br>
> And where does the part d mention calculations?<br>
><br>
> And it is certainly the most correct response. (the first three are<br>
> testing)<br>
><br>
> Mark Scott<br>
> "Education is an admirable thing, but remember that nothing that
is worth<br>
> knowing can be taught." Oscar Wilde<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br>
> [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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On Behalf Of Mark Kelly<br>
> Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 1:23 PM<br>
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam:
assessor's<br>
> report<br>
><br>
> I see Section A Q9 had no comment by the examiners...<br>
><br>
> "Validation is used to<br>
> A. check the accuracy of calculations.<br>
> B. detect software errors and alert the manager.<br>
> C. test functions and alert programmers to errors.<br>
> D. prevent inaccurate data from entering the system.<br>
><br>
> The official 'right' answer was still steadfastly 'D', which is
rubbish.<br>
><br>
> It cannot be D because validation does NOT check the ACCURACY of
data,<br>
> only its reasonableness.<br>
><br>
> Even the sacred IT glossary says validation checks data input to a
system<br>
> is of an "appropriate type for processing, and within acceptable<br>
> boundaries")<br>
><br>
> So are we to accept that validation is used to check the accuracy
of<br>
> calculations? No - that's called testing.<br>
><br>
> Hmphh.<br>
> Not happy, Jan.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Christophersen, Paula P wrote:<br>
>> Dear colleagues<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The assessor's report on the 2007 IT apps examination is now
available<br>
>> at:<br>
>><br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> html#H2N10037<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> It is also attached. I will let you know when the Software
development<br>
>> report is available.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Paula<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Paula Christophersen<br>
>><br>
>> ICT Curriculum Manager<br>
>><br>
>> VCAA<br>
>><br>
>> 41 St Andrews Place<br>
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>> EAST MELBOURNE 3002<br>
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>> (03) 9651 4378<br>
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