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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 20 April 2008 2:18
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> OC2 Virtual coll..secure
page qn..</span></font></p>
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2 Virtual Collaboration..</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Using front page, a web can be
created incorporating a self registration page for a discussion
forum. What is the consensus from you guys about using this as an option to
allow 'secure virtual collaboration'. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Its available on the page selection
feature with FP to build into webs and we are required to build into our site a
virtual discussion forum. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any comments on this idea. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Paula C. is this a legitimate
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Visual thinking.. anyone got a magic
bullet for that one yet? We all had our different approaches last year on the
VT approach.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au on
behalf of Timmer-Arends<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sat 4/19/2008 8:28 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT
applications 2007 exam: assessor's report</span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Validation is used
to<br>
D. prevent inaccurate data from entering the system<br>
<br>
It would have been better if D had read: D minimise inaccurate...<br>
but, given that it didn't, D is the *most* correct answer<br>
<br>
because, as has been pointed out, validation (manual or electronic) can<br>
never prevent inaccurate data from entering a system; eg the form that the<br>
entry operator is using may have been filled out incorrectly etc<br>
<br>
And (for the sake of my pedantic soul) I no longer think spell checking<br>
should be considered as a validation technique because it is not actually<br>
checking the validity of the data, but the validity of the spelling.<br>
"Correct" spelling is a convention: fish, fyche, or ghoti are all
written<br>
representations in the English language of those animals you eat with chips.<br>
If the data were about types of animals found on a plate then 'ghoti' would<br>
be correct, but becuase it does not follow convention it becomes difficult<br>
to understand. And isn't that one of the purposes of conventions: to give us<br>
a common frame of reference?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Robert T-A<br>
<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Mark Scott" <msc@luther.vic.edu.au><br>
To: "'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'"<br>
<itapps@edulists.com.au><br>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:11 PM<br>
Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's report<br>
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<br>
Forget machine validation.<br>
<br>
The question is talking about manual validation.<br>
<br>
Checking for typos etc is clearly checking for accuracy.<br>
<br>
Mark Scott<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [<a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>
On Behalf Of Mark Kelly<br>
Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 2:24 PM<br>
To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's report<br>
<br>
Hi Mark<br>
<br>
Yes, I include spell checking as validation, and I agree that the other<br>
options are all bad, but I don't accept that validation can check that<br>
data are accurate.<br>
<br>
If a person's age is entered as 19 into a database, validation can't<br>
prove the person is 19 or not. All it can do is tell whether 19 is a<br>
reasonable age or not under the circumstances (e.g. 19 would not be<br>
reasonable if the database stored data on newborn babies, or if it were<br>
an old folk's home).<br>
<br>
And looking at databases' validation options, you can check for data<br>
range, type, existence, uniqueness, even its existence in a limited<br>
list, but not "accuracy" :-)<br>
<br>
The Q does not mention calculations, but what I tried to say was that<br>
testing accuracy is a role of testing, not validation (and my kids<br>
frequently confuse testing and validation (and evaluation, come to think<br>
of it).<br>
<br>
It's mainly annoying that the question contradicts the Study Design<br>
glossary, which is mandated knowledge. But then again, it's Friday<br>
afternoon and most things annoy me then.<br>
<br>
Mark Scott wrote:<br>
> Not sure I agree with you on this one.<br>
><br>
> Checking data entry for spelling mistakes is validation (I think).<br>
><br>
> And where does the part d mention calculations?<br>
><br>
> And it is certainly the most correct response. (the first three are<br>
> testing)<br>
><br>
> Mark Scott<br>
> "Education is an admirable thing, but remember that nothing that is
worth<br>
> knowing can be taught." Oscar Wilde<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au<br>
> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
On Behalf Of Mark Kelly<br>
> Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 1:23 PM<br>
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] IT applications 2007 exam: assessor's<br>
> report<br>
><br>
> I see Section A Q9 had no comment by the examiners...<br>
><br>
> "Validation is used to<br>
> A. check the accuracy of calculations.<br>
> B. detect software errors and alert the manager.<br>
> C. test functions and alert programmers to errors.<br>
> D. prevent inaccurate data from entering the system.<br>
><br>
> The official 'right' answer was still steadfastly 'D', which is rubbish.<br>
><br>
> It cannot be D because validation does NOT check the ACCURACY of data,<br>
> only its reasonableness.<br>
><br>
> Even the sacred IT glossary says validation checks data input to a system<br>
> is of an "appropriate type for processing, and within acceptable<br>
> boundaries")<br>
><br>
> So are we to accept that validation is used to check the accuracy of<br>
> calculations? No - that's called testing.<br>
><br>
> Hmphh.<br>
> Not happy, Jan.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Christophersen, Paula P wrote:<br>
>> Dear colleagues<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The assessor's report on the 2007 IT apps examination is now available<br>
>> at:<br>
>><br>
>> <a
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/exams">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/exams</a>.<br>
>> html#H2N10037<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> It is also attached. I will let you know when the Software development<br>
>> report is available.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Paula<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Paula Christophersen<br>
>><br>
>> ICT Curriculum Manager<br>
>><br>
>> VCAA<br>
>><br>
>> 41 St Andrews Place<br>
>><br>
>> EAST MELBOURNE 3002<br>
>><br>
>> (03) 9651 4378<br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
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> McKinnon Secondary College<br>
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