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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You just have to walk around any neighbourhood that
has a hard rubbish collection service to realise that CRT's are not valued by
anyone - saw one today on its back with smashed screen in Scotchmans' Creek
....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very sad, bloody crazy, but just shows the
government's and the community's general lack of concern about having a real
recycling program in Australia.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert T-A</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jagguy999@gmail.com href="mailto:jagguy999@gmail.com">andrew
barry</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 31, 2008 1:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Supporting
Virtual Teams through Technology-VITTA Workshop 09/08 - Registrations
Open!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>i think i is an awful procedure for householders to have to pay
to recycle, in fact plain stupid.<BR><BR>If people can get rid of them from
the council for free instead of paying to get rid of them they will. Charities
dont want them, as i have phoned a few myself.<BR><BR>When i did crt work in
primary schools they were all wanting more computers, so what is going
on?<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:57 PM, <<A
href="mailto:billo@kew.hotkey.net.au">billo@kew.hotkey.net.au</A>>
wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">What
a great idea.<BR><BR>We can all send whole obsolete computer labs to roland
to dispose of for us!<BR><BR>LOL<BR><BR>Bill Oldham (Sessional teacher of
Year 11 and 12 IT at Chisholm TAFE)<BR>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=Wj3C7c><BR><BR>Quoting andrew barry <<A
href="mailto:jagguy999@gmail.com">jagguy999@gmail.com</A>>:<BR><BR>>
ok sorry i didnt read your post properly.<BR>><BR>> did you say i
would need to pay to get rid of them?<BR>> how do i get the monitors to
your school?<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:01
AM, Roland Gesthuizen <<A
href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>><BR>> > I offered to help get rid of some CRT's for
staff by adding them to the<BR>> > school pool of monitors we are
returning. I think they charge about<BR>> $20-40<BR>> > per
monitor. It wasn't a big deal as we originally gave away a many of<BR>>
these<BR>> > old monitors. Part of closing the loop is making the
retailer / producer<BR>> > think about plans for the long term,
correct disposal of the e-waste that<BR>> > they are generating ..
schools have an ethical obligation to take back<BR>> and<BR>> >
correctly destroy. It is the least we can now do considering the<BR>>
> dump-masters that I once filled with e-waste.<BR>> ><BR>> >
If schools think that donating equipment absolves us of all future
eWaste<BR>> > issues, then they are in the same boat as those that
give old toxic, old<BR>> > super-tankers to third world countries to
scrap and decommission on the<BR>> > beaches. We are all in the same
boat.<BR>> ><BR>> > Regards Roland<BR>> ><BR>> > PS:
Oddly enough, if you have a brand name monitor .. some have a return<BR>>
> to manufacturer policy (I know this is the case for IBM, Apple, HP
and<BR>> > perhaps others)<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > On
30/03/2008, andrew barry <<A
href="mailto:jagguy999@gmail.com">jagguy999@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> ><BR>> > > no these are my own crt's and i cant get rid of
them.<BR>> > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Roland Gesthuizen
<<BR>> > > <A
href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > We pay for ComputerBank to
sustainably destroy and dispose of our old<BR>> > > > TV's and
CRT (cathode ray tubes) These must be processed by a<BR>>
leaded-glass<BR>> > > > recycler / lead smelter. Just ask them
for the price, this is something<BR>> that<BR>> > > > we now
factor into my ICT budget. At our school, safety comes first, so<BR>>
does<BR>> > > > dealing with eWaste. VITTA have on their website
a position statement<BR>> on<BR>> > > > this very issue if
you need to raise the costs with your school<BR>> council.<BR>> >
> ><BR>> > > > Heavy metal contamination from early
Melbourne efforts at dealing<BR>> with<BR>> > > > industrial
waste is now being recycling back into the Port Phillip<BR>> bay<BR>>
> > > ecosystem from the channel dredging. If we continue to dump
this stuff<BR>> into<BR>> > > > landfill, sit back folks and
enjoy your gift to the future ..<BR>> > > ><BR>> > >
> Regards Roland<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>>
> > > On 29/03/2008, andrew barry <<A
href="mailto:jagguy999@gmail.com">jagguy999@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> > > ><BR>> > > > > they dont take crt's without
the computer box.<BR>> > > > > they wont take my 2 crt's and
old pent II<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > On Sat,
Mar 29, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Roland Gesthuizen <<BR>> > > > >
<A href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > > > ><BR>> > > > > > Computer
Bank could take this off your hands. Our college is<BR>> > > >
> > organising another shipment of old printers, CPU cases, ewaste
and<BR>> CRT<BR>> > > > > > monitors.<BR>> > >
> > ><BR>> > > > > > <A
href="http://vic.computerbank.org.au"
target=_blank>http://vic.computerbank.org.au</A><BR>> > > > >
> "We recycle donated computers with quality free software and<BR>>
> > > > > distribute them to disadvantaged individuals and
community groups.<BR>> Donated<BR>> > > > > > computers
are tested and obsolete parts are stripped and recycled<BR>> by<BR>>
> > > > > volunteers."<BR>> > > > >
><BR>> > > > > > Regards Roland<BR>> > > >
> ><BR>> > > > > > On 28/03/2008, andrew barry
<<A href="mailto:jagguy999@gmail.com">jagguy999@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > > > > ><BR>> > > > > >
> Hi<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > > >
> > I have some crt monitors i want to get rid of, both 19inch
and<BR>> > > > > > > working well.<BR>> > >
> > > > any ideas?<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>>
> > > > > > also i have a cannon bubble jet printer i dont
want and a old<BR>> > > > > > > pentium 200ghz with
win95 on it.<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > >
> > > where can i dump this stuff or does someone have a better
idea<BR>> > > > > > > as i hate to just throw it out on
the sidewalk.<BR>> > > > > > ><BR>> > > >
> > ><BR>> > > > > > >
_______________________________________________<BR>> > > > >
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