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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Kent and colleagues</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In term 2008, a coursework assessment
report will be published on the VCAA website for unit 3 (and hopefully unit 4 –
or that will come a little later), outlining the strengths and weaknesses of
the tasks presented in the audit process. The same will apply for Software
development, and to any other study which is in its first of implementing a
reaccredited study, such as Accounting.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In addition, I am happy to provide some
more details about Outcome 2 (which was the topic of conversation with </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Kent</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>), however, I will post them
after the VITTA conference.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Paula</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Paula Christophersen</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ICT Curriculum Manager</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EAST MELBOURNE 3002</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>(03) 9651 4378</span></font></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 15 November 2007
5:01 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> For Paula
Christopherson...</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi
Paula,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Just a thought, following your
comments to me about the audit outcome for my tasks, perhaps we 'listers' could
benefit from a summary of shortcomings and strengths as highlighted by the panel
looking at the tasks done/submitted for audit, during this year. I know I
gained some handy ideas from our phone conversation, maybe if permissable, you
could share some of the key features we discussed on the phone. I personally,
have no probs if it means we can all make better our tasks for next year
and after..</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Feel free to contact my email below
with a follow up if you like. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Oh, by the way, I forgot to ask you
if it would be possible for you to email me anyway with a summary of the points
we discussed over the phone wrt my submitted materials so I wouldn't forget any
of the key points. I made some notes but my memory has never been one of my
strengths.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Again, thanks for the feedback, it
created a good level of thought on my tasks for me.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am glad that I wasnt 'too far' off
the mark generally. The winners will definitely be my pupils next year!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(Hey, they are winners this year
too! They all hung in there to the end...)</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>KB.</span></font></p>
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Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au on
behalf of Geoff Moss<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thu 11/15/2007 2:34 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Qu A 15 - Litsa</span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font
size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Fully agree
Stephen<br>
<br>
The exercise was done due to a query whether we could create numbers with zero
at the front of a phone number using the number data type format.<br>
<br>
It does have its limitations as you point out and one would have to seriously
consider how the data would be used in the future before "building them
into the file formatting".<br>
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It also supports our original argument for MC q15 that the data type must be
text for phone numbers AND for postcodes if we are to include ALL Australian
postcodes (considering NT postcodes begin with zero).<br>
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Postcodes are used by Australia Post to identify postal districts in
Australia. The NT system is organised such that:<br>
The numbering follows a broadly north-south pattern;<br>
Except in Darwin's suburban area, the final digit indicates:<br>
0 - major centre (Palmerston, Katherine, Tennant Creek, Alice Springs,
Nhulunbuy)<br>
1 - PO box<br>
2 - region surrounding major centre<br>
3-9 - other towns in district<br>
Historically NT codes were in the 5750-5799 range, with a similar organisation
except that it followed a south-north pattern, with Darwin being 5790, now it
is 0800. The move to the new range occurred in the early 1990s.<br>
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<br>
Thanks for bringing the limitations to all our attention.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Geoff Moss<br>
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> Stephen Digby <digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Yes .... BUT<br>
> You are actually removing some characters from the phone number data and<br>
> building them into the file formatting.<br>
> When you exported the data for use in another application, OR needed to<br>
> utilise a different starting digit at some future date, then<br>
> all previously entered data would then be revealed to be incomplete in<br>
> terms of their ability to connect to the correct phone.<br>
><br>
> ====================================================<br>
> Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager<br>
> mailto: admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au<br>
> Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au<br>
> Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx: 9555 8617 Mb: 0431-701-028<br>
> ====================================================<br>
> I liked "Slaughterhouse 5", but I can't find the first four
anywhere. <br>
> NOT a Steven Wright joke (a look alike from Steve Connelly)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au<br>
> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
On Behalf Of Geoff Moss<br>
> Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2007 12:08 PM<br>
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] Qu A 15 - Litsa<br>
><br>
> Hi Litsa<br>
><br>
> I have attached a Word document showing the input masks as well as<br>
> another copy of the Access File: db11.mdb to demonstrate what I<br>
> did to enter phone numbers using both text and number data types.<br>
><br>
> Additionally, I created 2 extra fields to enable entry of an area code<br>
> as well as a phone number.<br>
><br>
> Using the input mask forces the "0" at the start of the the area
code. <br>
> This could also be used for mobile phone numbers.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Geoff Moss<br>
> RMIT<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> > Litsa Tzelepis <htzelepis@msj.melb.catholic.edu.au> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > hi geoff,<br>
> > thank-you but i can't access it - don't worry i'll work it out.<br>
> > thanks just the same - have a good day, litsa :)<br>
> > ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > From: Geoff Moss<br>
> > To: Year12 MailingList<br>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:18 PM<br>
> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Qu A 15 - Litsa<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Litsa<br>
> ><br>
> > Just in case you have a high security setting I have
zipped the file<br>
><br>
> > so you can receive the file.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards<br>
> ><br>
> > Geoff Moss<br>
> > RMIT<br>
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