Hmm, they didn't answer the $M60 question asked. <br><br>Oddly enough, they invited Laurie to download the tender. Cute :-)<br><br>It would be an interesting to post a tender response.<br>
<br>A survey is nice, but I wonder at the depth and level of consultation with the
subject associations and professional groups already doing cool activities with tools such as Moodle. This is about teaching and learning, not just worksheets, software and bandwidth. For now, we we can only speculate at the deeper educational pedagogy and research that
underpins this centralist model for networked service delivery. Anybody who can predict the world beyond 2017 is a fool. I'm certainly not holding my
breath.<br>
<br> It is really great to see ALL the different learning tools we are all using and engaged by the exciting things that are happening. Only last week, a new teacher was posted here a swag of ideas from MS Sharepoint users. Thats cool! There is a very real strength in our current diversity of tools, teaching styles and innovative solutions, many in spite of poor funding or administrative hurdles. The VITTA annual conference is a celebration of these success stories by a community of practicing educators.
<br><br>Should we be concerned about an all embracing, centralist model for networked service delivery for Victorian state schools? I suppose we could be proactive and engage with the tender process .. or keep on doing the fun stuff that engages and teaches our students :-)
<br><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 20/08/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Laurie Savage</b> <<a href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I emailed the Ultranet people, here is their reply.<br><br>Laurie<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Quach, Tam T [mailto:<a href="mailto:quach.tam.t@edumail.vic.gov.au">quach.tam.t@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>] On Behalf Of
<br>Ultranet<br>Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 9:28 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a><br>Subject: RE: Ultranet<br><br>Hi Laurie<br><br>Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August 2007 regarding the Ultranet.
<br><br>The Department of Education is aware that some schools are using learning<br>management systems such as Moodle. Please refer to section 8.1.20 of the<br>Request for Tender specifications below:<br><br>8.1.20 Learning Management Systems
<br>A few Victorian government schools have made investments in third party<br>learning management solutions. Solutions include (but are not limited to)<br>Edumate, My Classes, Scholaris, Studywiz, Moodle, Blackboard and other
<br>custom developed intranet solutions. The solutions are implemented within<br>schools' curriculum network environment. DoE is in the process of conducting<br>an extensive survey of existing applications in use at schools to assist in
<br>formulating the data conversion and change management strategies.<br><br>Learning management systems, however, are only one component of the<br>Ultranet. The other components include:<br><br>. Strategy<br>. Learning and Teaching Management
<br>. Administration<br>. Collaboration<br>. Student Information<br>. Staff Information<br>. School Information<br>. Reporting<br>. Productivity Tools<br>. Architecture<br>. Security<br>. Standards<br>. Change Management<br>
. Development and Implementation<br>. Service Hosting, Operational Support and Maintenance<br><br>The Ultranet Request for Tender was released publicly on 1 August 2007. You<br>can the Ultranet RFT from the Victorian Government Tenders web site at
<br><a href="http://www.tenders.vic.gov.au">www.tenders.vic.gov.au</a>. Search for 'Ultranet'. You will need to register on<br>the site in order to download the document.<br><br>I hope this answers your question.
<br><br>Regards<br>Tam Quach<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Laurie Savage [mailto:<a href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>]<br>Sent: Friday, 17 August 2007 3:35 PM<br>To: Ultranet<br>Subject: Ultranet
<br><br>We are already using a colloborative, intuitive e-learning system that is<br>under constant development and improvement. We use it for VELS and VCE<br>cources. It is free, open source and can be tailored to local needs. It is
<br>written in PHP and uses a free backend database. It is called Moodle. Does<br>the state need to spend $M60 to implement an untried alternative?<br><br>Laurie Savage<br>ICT/Comm. Tech. Teacher,<br>Pascoe Vale Girls College
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