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<FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>Hi all,<BR>
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I can’t seem to find any evidence to suggest that students need to complete a project management plan in U 4 O1.<BR>
Have I missed something ?<BR>
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Jock<BR>
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On 19/6/07 9:50 PM, "Roland Gesthuizen" <rgesthuizen@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>Rockets! .. cool :-)<BR>
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I have a dusty old Gantt chart that I whip out with my technicians every time I need to do a major equipment rotation at our college. Here is a nice one that I use in the classroom. it is an instructable that explains "How to Organize and Cook Holiday Dinner for a Crowd" .. planning people, time and resources using a coloured spreadsheet to stick on the fridge. As an example, I like its appeal for girls, especially those doing something similar for our year 12 formal.<BR>
<a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/E7YI0IFN8XEV2Z4ZPX/">http://www.instructables.com/id/E7YI0IFN8XEV2Z4ZPX/</a><BR>
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<a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/E7YI0IFN8XEV2Z4ZPX/?ALLSTEPS#"><http://www.instructables.com/id/E7YI0IFN8XEV2Z4ZPX/?ALLSTEPS#></a> <BR>
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Regards Roland<BR>
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PS: the Instructables is a very addictive website with oodles of hands on technology projects. Enjoy! <BR>
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On 17/06/07, <B>Laurie Savage</B> <sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au> wrote:<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>I started using project management and simple Gantt charts with year 8<BR>
students in a rocketry unit. In a group they build a small<BR>
working rocket (with real chemical motors and a parachute).<BR>
In the planning stage they have to allocate tasks and sequence them. <BR>
I.E. they work out roles and precedence. Using this tool I cut the<BR>
project's time in half and kept the kids honest!<BR>
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Laurie<BR>
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On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 08:28:48PM +1000, Mark Kelly mentioned:<BR>
> It's quite artificial to get kids to produce Gantt charts for a project <BR>
> they are undertaking alone (because the VCAA demands all unit 3+4 tasks<BR>
> must be done solo).<BR>
><BR>
> That's why I get my kids to invent 2 hypothetical colleagues so their<BR>
> Gantt chart can use them to incorporate concurrent tasks. <BR>
><BR>
> Finished reports! hehehehe!<BR>
><BR>
> Adrian Janson wrote:<BR>
> >Hi all,<BR>
> ><BR>
> >It's ironic that we are discussing not wasting time with project<BR>
> >management???? <BR>
> ><BR>
> >Is it just me who thinks that's quite funny? (must be Friday).<BR>
> ><BR>
> >On a serious note though, don't underplay the importance of project<BR>
> >management. Although students can't see the relevance often, it is a very <BR>
> >valuable and important ICT skill.<BR>
> ><BR>
> >Cheers,<BR>
> >Adrian<BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> >Adrian Janson<BR>
> >VITTA President<BR>
> >Director of ICT, Melbourne High School <BR>
> ><BR>
> >-----Original Message-----<BR>
> >From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au<BR>
> >[mailto: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au <mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au> ]<BR>
> >On Behalf Of Antonia Caridi<BR>
> >Sent: Friday, 15 June 2007 2:09 PM<BR>
> >To: ITA<BR>
> >Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Gantt in U4O1<BR>
> ><BR>
> >I'll take this on board Brendyn - when I wrote the tasks for the CD we were <BR>
> >still awaiting Assessment Handbook and we were still working through<BR>
> >everything ourselves, as you know, you get better as you do the course and<BR>
> >it was quite difficult to write tasks when one hadn't actually taught it. <BR>
> ><BR>
> >So, no, project management is not required and I have amended my tasks to<BR>
> >reflect this. You are right - don't waste too much time on things that<BR>
> >aren't required.<BR>
> ><BR>
> >Antonia - attached is a reworked task that I will use for a practice. It<BR>
> >is<BR>
> >very similar to the one in Study Design (yes I wrote that too).<BR>
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Jock<BR>
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