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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D148543701-22032007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>We have gone exactly opposite
direction....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D148543701-22032007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>School provision of email accounts is an unnecessar=
y
duplication of superior free services provided by major world players. =
School services will (and are in my experience and research) inevitably
underutilised EXCEPT where virtually all crucial information for students is=
available ONLY through the same web interface (as universities do) with no
capacity for external pop3 collection etc..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D148543701-22032007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The over head for schools is not much technically a=
s mail
servers are a cinch, but administratively and legally it is a potential blac=
k
hole. ANY issue arising from emails directed through the school server=
s is
the LEGAL responsibility of the school whether they relate to school issues=
or
not, whether they are sent in school time or not. This is not a proble=
m
for uni where there are fewer "adolescent" issues, less hysteria from
parents and more recourse to effective sanctions such as the police and cour=
se
cancellation etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D148543701-22032007><FONT face=3DAr=
ial
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>We do not want to take on responsibility for what i=
s
effectively the modern equivalent of the mail system when such systems are
already freely available.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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-------------<BR>Stephen
Digby, Learning Technology Manager<BR><A
href=3D"mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</=
A> <BR>Cheltenham
Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx: 9555=
8617<BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------=
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave & Marre=
e
Mitchell<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 22 March 2007 10:35 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Yea=
r 12
IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IT A=
pps]
FW: room change<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We have blocked a=
ll
personal email accounts, which force the students to use their school email.=
The
problem with external email accounts is that they can send email anonymously=
with minimal chance of tracing who the mail is from. Forcing them to use sch=
ool
email allows your administrators to track the mail sent, minimise plagiarism=
as
they can check their account, etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The kids are quit=
e
annoyed but I believe it is a necessary measure and am weathering the storm=
at
the moment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dave<BR>The King=
David
School<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p>=
</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center"
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><FONT face=3DTahoma si=
ze=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPA=
N></FONT></B><FONT
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.=
au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold"=
>On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mark Scott<BR><B><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 22 March 2007 9:30
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Year 12 IT Applica=
tions
Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPA=
N></B>
RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><=
SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Michael<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><=
SPAN
lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Do your kids use/check=
their
school email or do you use their personal (hotmail etc) email
addresses?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><=
SPAN
lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">We have trouble here ge=
tting
students to use their school email.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><=
SPAN
lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Mark
Scott<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><=
SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center"
align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><FONT face=3DTahoma si=
ze=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPA=
N></FONT></B><FONT
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.=
au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold"=
>On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Brendyn Hancock<BR><B><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 22 March 2007 9:17
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
itapps@edulists.com.au<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPA=
N></B>
Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] FW: room change</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DEN=
-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Michael<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Your blunder may=
be just
the catalyst to start a thread on how schools communicate with there
students.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">It would appear=
that you
communicating with your students via email is a very 'normal' thing for
you.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">How do others se=
e this?
Progressive or 'normal'?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
T></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Brendyn<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FO=
NT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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=3D2><SPAN
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FON=
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Hancock</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>=
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"Michael Torsello (Mr)" <michael@stmargarets.vic.edu.au> 22/03/2007 8:=
51
am >>><BR>My sincere apologies - my fingers slipped.<BR>Please igno=
re
my
blunder.<BR><BR>------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------------<BR>With
Thanks<BR>Michael Torsello<BR>Director of Computing<BR>St Margaret's
School<BR>Ph: (0! 3) 9703
8111<BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From: Michael Torsello
(Mr)<BR>Sent: Thu 22/03/2007 8:48 AM<BR>To: itapps@edulists.com.au<BR>Subjec=
t:
room change<BR><BR><BR>Hello girls<BR>Don't forget that today in period 3 to=
go
to the library and try to complete as much of the practice SAC as you can.<B=
R>I
will be impressed if you get to start making the database (after completing=
the
Gantt chart and the designs of course).<BR><BR>Also don't forget to send me=
your
journal entry. Kadence, I haven't received any from you yet.<BR><BR>PS Tash,=
I
met your father
yesterday.<BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------=
----------------------<BR>With
Thanks<BR>Michael Torsello<BR>Director of Computing<BR>St Margaret's
School<BR>Ph: (03) 9703
8111<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>http://www.ed=
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