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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Cameron - this is SO cool!!<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Do you want the choccies or the wine??<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Where are you??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D1 color=3Dgray face=3D"Arial Narrow"=
><span
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow";color:gray;font-weight:b=
old'>Roslyn
Meadows | Information Technology | <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:s=
t=3D"on">Bentleigh</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st=3D=
"on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
| meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au | ph 03 9579 1044 | mobile 0412 614 06=
2<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]=
On
Behalf Of Cameron Bell<br>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 February 2007 6:21 PM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing Li=
st</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] educache (not applicable to those teachingin
non-government schools)</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I inherited exactly the same system. We have sinc=
e
moved over to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>BrightSparks unlimited plan ($500 per month flat=
rate)
and opened it all <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>up so that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>1) staff and students can access the same things
(students can actually <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>see more than staff cause they know about proxy s=
ites
;) )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>2) students that have returned acceptable use
agreements have internet <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>access and it doesn't matter about "credits&=
quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>3) we don't bother the office staff with kids pay=
ing
for internet <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>credits or have kids carrying money to school to=
pay
more and more<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Staff know the system you have / we had is simply=
a
pain in the neck and <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>an administrative millstone that has no education=
al
rationale to back it <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>up other than it narrows down searches quickly (y=
ou
can achieve the same <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>with a clickable worksheet). You should have hear=
d the
cheer in the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>staff meeting when I told staff it was open acces=
s!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>So you go to your leaders say "Bright sparks
offers $500 per month <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>unlimited access" we can afford this, it
maximises the potential of the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>internet as an EDUCATIONAL TOOL not some
administrative empire that none <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>shall pass! It reduces teacher and office workloa=
d and
will ENABLE open <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>learning skills rather than RESTRICTING you to a=
small
(but quality) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>pool available.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><rant over><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Cameron<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dn=
avy
face=3DVerdana><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Meadows, Roslyn M</span></f=
ont></st1:PersonName>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Sorry folks, I know this may be Offtopic (pl=
ease
don’t yell at me!) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> but it affects all of our students at BSC,
especially the VCE kids.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> While I was away from Bentleigh last year
students’ access to the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> internet was limited to the educache. This w=
as
done because it was <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> thought that websites within educache did no=
t
cost us if students went <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> to them, and many staff were frustrated at k=
ids
not having internet <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> credit, so the educache only rule was applie=
d.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> In my first lesson this year I asked a Year=
10
class to do some <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> research on the when, how, who, why, etc of=
the
origins of the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> internet and the WWW. I had no idea that the
educache restrictions had <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> been put into place.<o:p></o:p></span></font=
></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> No results were returned in their searches.=
Even
when I TOLD them to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> search for ARPANET or BERNERS-LEE no results=
were
returned.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> In the end I turned on the projector, did a
search myself (teachers <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> can go outside educache) and showed them the
answers which they <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> dutifully typed into their word documents.<o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Now I know that I can ask for websites to be
added to educache (if one <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> can predict exactly the way a lesson will go=
that
is fine), but I <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> cannot find out WHICH websites can be visite=
d
unless I ask a kid to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> try going to that site (for example I wanted=
to
use w3schools, so had <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> to check with a kids internet first)<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> I really wonder how we would have coped doin=
g
Unit 1 Outcome 3 last <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> year under this system!!!<o:p></o:p></span><=
/font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Now to me this goes totally against the grai=
n of
VELS, and must make <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> it very difficult for so many VCE classes (n=
ot
just IT) and is rather <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> like saying “You can only access the t=
op shelves
in the library”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> What I need is a large number of excellent
arguments for restoring the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> internet to our students. Your help would be
truly appreciated. A <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> bottle of wine or box of chocolates will be
sent/delivered to the best <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> response!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Ros<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> **Roslyn Meadows | Information Technology***=
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> ***meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au** <o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>>
<mailto:meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> **ph 03 9579 1044 | mobile 0412 614 062**<o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> *Important - *This email and any attachments=
may
be confidential. If <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> received in error, please contact us and del=
ete
all copies. Before <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> opening or using attachments check them for
viruses and defects. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> Regardless of any loss, damage or consequenc=
e,
whether caused by the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> negligence of the sender or not, resulting d=
irectly
or indirectly from <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DVerdana><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>> the use of any attached files our liability=
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