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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><s=
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style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 16 February 200=
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5:15 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Ok Ok!</span></font>=
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps=
] Non
ITA list content --- from the Administrator</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Folks and Colleagues,<br>
<br>
This issue comes up every six months and is never satisfactoril=
y
resolved.<br>
<br>
From my point of view the following are the issues:<br>
<br>
1. Despite the presence of 20 , yes 20 different lists with
memberships<br>
ranging from 50 to over 500, all related to IT, the itapps lists<br>
remains the "go to " list whenever there is a question on any topi=
c -<br>
even non IT.<br>
2. Not all IT teachers are itapps teachers. Many schools no lon=
ger
have<br>
itapps running and so valuable information never reaches those people<br>
unless they join or remain on the itapps list.<br>
3. Those who are itapps teachers may not be working on or respo=
nsible<br>
for OT posts that only dilute the rightful place of the itapps list to<br>
help teachers teach itapps. So, their frustrations rise as they have to<br>
wade through the chaff to reach the wheat. This is known as a high<br>
chaff to wheat ratio list due to the non itapps posts.<br>
4. A high number of non itapps posts reduce the quality of the
itapps<br>
list. It can charm, but usually frustrates subscribers.<br>
5. Several years ago, an offtopic list was set up specifically=
for
IT<br>
teachers. Let's use it and get onto it.<br>
6. Let's redirect or repost messages to the right list so we ca=
n
better<br>
manage the content of each list for the task it is intended.<br>
<br>
Surely as IT teachers we are capable of using the technology
correctly.<br>
Let us encourage ( not criticise or condemn ) each other to use the<br>
correct list for the appropriate topic.<br>
<br>
Happy hour in 10 minutes ....... bring it on<br>
<br>
Best Wishes<br>
<br>
<br>
Kevork Krozian<br>
Mailing List Administrator<br>
kevork@edulists.com.au<br>
www.edulists.com.au<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> Hi <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Kent</st1:pla=
ce></st1:country-region>,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> But nobody seems to subscribe to the Offtopic list, which is why I<br>
> posted my query re wireless problems to this list, and I did preface my=
<br>
> first enquiry with "This is really Offtopic but I thought more<br>
> suggestions might come from this list."<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> If everyone who started an offtopic thread puts the word 'offtopic' in<=
br>
> the subject, you can set up a rule in your email client to delete them<=
br>
> all automatically if you don't want to participate in these threads.<br=
>
> Otherwise there is a little X button you can use, combined with the<br>
> shift or CTRL key and sorting by topic it is quick to delete large<br>
> numbers of emails.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Just an idea.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Personally I always think you never know when a thread might appear tha=
t<br>
> interests you (or someone says something that gives you a giggle!)-<br>
> regardless of the topic.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> It's hot, it's 2.40pm Friday arvo, and a glass of wine is less than hal=
f<br>
> an hour away!!! *smile*<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
><br>
> Ros<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Roslyn Meadows | Information Technology | <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:P=
laceName
w:st=3D"on">Bentleigh</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Secondary<=
/st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> |<br>
> meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au | ph 03 9579 1044 | mobile 0412 614=
<br>
> 062<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au<br>
> [<a href=3D"mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounce=
s@edulists.com.au</a>]
On Behalf Of Mark Kelly<br>
> Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 2:06 PM<br>
> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Non ITA list content<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Kent</st1:pla=
ce></st1:country-region>.
Yes, I guess the OT quotient has been rising lately but it<br>
><br>
> never seemed to get to a problematic level.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We should all keep in mind the primary aim of this list and ask<br>
><br>
> ourselves whether it's better post our queries to a more appropriate<br=
>
> forum.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Mark<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Kent Beveridge wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Is it just me or have others noticed that there seems to be lots of=
<br>
> (what I consider to be) stuff that is non ITA focus.<br>
><br>
>> Eg I dont recall that I have to teach in ITA about CASES 'how to'<b=
r>
> documents.<br>
><br>
>> Can you guys please be selective about the content as my email box=
is<br>
> about to explode with all the OT stuff!<br>
><br>
>> Apologies to those who feel I'm being a wet rag - I just like seeki=
ng<br>
> attention!<br>
><br>
>> KB.<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> "This email and any attachments may be confidential. You
must not<br>
> disclose or use the information in this email if you are not the<br>
> intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, ple=
ase<br>
> notify us immediately and delete the email and all copies. The
School<br>
> does not guarantee that this email is virus or error free. The
attached<br>
> files are provided and my only be used on the basis that the user<br>
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g<br>
> directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether<br>
> caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The content and
opinions<br>
> in this email are not necessarily those of the School."<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> ________________________________<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Stephen Digby<br>
><br>
>> Sent: Fri 16/02/2007 1:02 PM<br>
><br>
>> To: 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
><br>
>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] VELS Reporting<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> I think that teachers CANNOT enter domain scores.<br>
><br>
>> They ONLY enter dimension scores and the software automatically<br>
> calculates the domain score.<br>
><br>
>> The dimension scores cannot be reported.<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> If two people enter different dimension scores in the same domain,<=
br>
> different domain scores will be displayed<br>
><br>
>> on their reports, but the overall student domain score for the next=
<br>
> semester (or for a summary sheet if the<br>
><br>
>> school chooses to have one) will be a mathematical average of both<=
br>
> assessments.<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>><br>
>
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D><br>
> Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager<br>
><br>
>> <a href=3D"mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.=
vic.edu.au</a><br>
><br>
>> Cheltenham Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55=
<br>
> 955 Fx: 9555 8617<br>
><br>
>><br>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D><br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
><br>
>> From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au<br>
> [<a href=3D"mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounce=
s@edulists.com.au</a>]
On Behalf Of Michael Warden<br>
><br>
>> Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007 7:48 AM<br>
><br>
>> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teache=
rs'<br>
> MailingList<br>
><br>
>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] VELS Reporting<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> Hi everyone,<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> I have a question to ask about the QuickVic reporting program. Does=
<br>
> anyone know if teachers are suppose to<br>
><br>
>> input DIMENSIONS scores or DOMAIN scores please???<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> TIA<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
>> Michael<br>
><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
><br>
> Mark Kelly<br>
><br>
> Moderator: IPM Mailing List<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
><br>
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