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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Kent </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the VCAA CD <i><span style=3D'font-s=
tyle:
italic'>Implementing VCE IT</span></i> there is a suggested course of study=
for
units 3 and 4, together with some more detailed learning activities for seve=
ral
topics. The CD was sent to schools in December last year and was addressed t=
o
the VCE IT Coordinator. </span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D=
'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Paula</span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Paula Christophersen</span></font></p>
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span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>ICT </span></font><font color=3Dnavy><=
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style=3D'color:navy'>Curriculum</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'color:navy'> and Assessment</span></font></p>
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face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahom=
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color:windowtext'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><s=
pan
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 14 February=
2007
10:44 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> IT APPS timeline &am=
p;
Unit 1-2 timeline</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></fon=
t></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi all,</spa=
n></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Has anyone g=
ot a
timeline for ITA they would be willing to share as my students have had an
interrupted start and I am a little unsure about when to do the outcomes wit=
h
them. I am considering roughly about week 7-8 for OC1 term 1 and similar for
OC2 in term 2. We are using the Nelson book and I have similar thoughts to
other listers about the material missing from the site that we were expectin=
g
to be on there at the commencement of the year(missing links,sample exams et=
c.)</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Anyone willi=
ng to
share a Unit 1-2 timeline similarly would be welcomed.</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We dont have=
a
programming stream here(yet!) but can access gamemaker6 and VB(not the beer)=
.</span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Am consideri=
ng
streaming some kids towards the programming to engage them in an area of the=
ir
interest.</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></fon=
t></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Have just co=
me back
to IT teaching after 3 years in my other disguise as a Maths teacher(not Yr1=
2)
so I'm a bit rusty.</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></fon=
t></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Also tried t=
he
VITTA site but dont have a current membership and thus cant download some of
the terrific stuff available there presently. Will check with the boss about
school membership.</span></font></p>
</div>
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ck
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></fon=
t></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any thoughts
welcome folks...</span></font></p>
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ck
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> </span></fon=
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ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Kent Beverid=
ge (IT
years 8-12)</span></font></p>
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ck
face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>St.Brigids C=
atholic
SC, Horsham</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-l=
eft:
36.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Charmaine Taylor<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tue 13/02/2007 12:11 AM=
<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps=
]
Potts Ch 3 and Study Design</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 color=3Dbla=
ck
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I mix it up but mo=
stly
fit the theory in with the practice eg my recent classes<br>
Databases - purposes, structure, design tools<br>
- given a design, create a flat file database (this is intro task. Will move=
on
to relational next week)<br>
- discuss fields: field names (conventions), field sizes (limit storag=
e
space), data types (standard & MS Access)<br>
- create a report: sorted by, selected fields<br>
- report conventions re format and layout<br>
.......<br>
This approach suits my students who panic if given lots of notes in one go.<=
br>
Cheers,<br>
Charmaine Taylor<br>
Sunbury Downs College<br>
<br>
Keith Richardson wrote:<br>
<br>
</span></font></p>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
er New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>The approach I use (in covering the plethora of s=
tuff to be memorized)</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>is I DO NOT TEACH IT.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>How do I justify that? There is simply too much a=
nd lecturing almost all</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>of the time switches the kids off (IMHO).</span><=
/font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Solution - my kids have to make summaries of the=
chapters (one per</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>fortnight) plus some scenarios and sample questio=
ns. Reward - they are</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>allowed to take their own summaries into each sac=
.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>So what do I do with class time? Plenty of practi=
cal - let them keep</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>their hands on computers much of the time. Plenty=
of short sharp</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>discussions to whet the appetite/enthusiasm, answ=
er some questions they</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>might have about what they are reading for homewo=
rk (emphasizing that</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>the teacher is only one of many resources availab=
le to aid learning).</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I have a number of videos such as the study of th=
e info system used in</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Big W - this provides a wonderful opportunity for=
them to identify some</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>of the stuff they are learning as they summarize.=
</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I am not saying mine is the best approach, just t=
hat it seems to work OK</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>for me.</span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-l=
eft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'>Cheers, Keith</span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><=
font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'=
> </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font si=
ze=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>On Mon,=
12 Feb 2007 14:35:35 +1100, "Mark Kelly"</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><a href=3D"mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au"><=
kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au></a> said:</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Russell Edwards wrote:</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hello list,</span></font></pre><pre style=3D'marg=
in-left:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
er New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hello Russell.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I just finished my last set of powerpoint slides=
for Ch 3 of Potts.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'>I have a few questions; please excuse the naive ones as I am new to=
</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>teaching.</span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin=
-left:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font si=
ze=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Firstly,=
I did not expect to be giving lecture-style presentations to </span></font>=
</pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>secondary students, but in ITA there seems to be=
so much guff they're </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>expected to memorise with no real practical activ=
ity possible to cement </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>it, that lecturing and encouraging revision seems=
the only way to go. I </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>have been doing 20 mins of theory at the start of=
each double and then </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>have them go on with practical work (at present,=
Dreamweaver). Do others </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>follow a similar format for ITA? (The 20 mins loo=
ks to be too little </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>actually)</span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin=
-left:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
er New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>That's why my site is called "IT Lecture Not=
es" - exploratory learning </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>can be great but it chews up classtime. The=
'Lecture Tolerance Limit' </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>of your kids can vary from year to year, but I mi=
x lectures with </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>practice whenever I can.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Secondly, a few things in the book seem outdated.=
I'm no network </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>engineer, but it's my understanding that hubs and=
token ring networks </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>are a thing of the ancient past. Yet, both receiv=
e a fair bit of </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>coverage in the Potts book, especially hubs. Like=
wise, you'd be pretty </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>hard pressed to find anyone still using 10BASE2 t=
hese days.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pr=
e></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
er New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>It's funny how conservative IT folk can be. =
Yes - hubs and coaxial are </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>history; so, effectively, are bridges and repeate=
rs. Token Ring is a </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>rare oddity.</span></font></pre><pre style=3D'mar=
gin-left:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font si=
ze=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>To save=
time, I just teach CAT6, switches and Ethernet and basically </span></font>=
</pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>ignore coax, hubs and Token Ring. Be wary w=
ith ITA - the depth of </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>networking knowledge is way less than it was in I=
PM: no topologies or </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>protocols are needed now. The most technica=
l stuff remaining is cables </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>and wireless.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thirdly and related, how can I tell *specifically=
* what things students </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>will need to know for the exam? (Will hubs and to=
ken ring nets be in </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>it?) The study design mentions switches and not h=
ubs in the glossary </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>under network architecture, and bus, star and hyb=
rid, not ring, under </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>network topologies. Does that mean they're guaran=
teed not to be on the </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>exam? It seems fairly tricky for teachers and stu=
dents with a brand new </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>study design and no past exams to go by.</span></=
font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pr=
e></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
er New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>If a key knowledge dotpoint or the glossary says=
"including X,Y and Z" </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>it means that X,Y and Z are examinable.</span></f=
ont></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>If it says "for example", it is just an=
example to clarify what is </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>intended by a point.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'>No topologies are listed in U3O2 key knowledge so could not be justi=
fied </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>as examinable. Topologies and protocols bel=
ong in Software Development</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>now.</span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-left=
:36.0pt'><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'=
> </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Fourthly, the approach taken to network communica=
tions standards and </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>transmission media both in Potts and in the study=
design seems a bit of </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>a dog's breakfast, i.e. there is no concept of la=
yers. Readers won't </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>know that IP runs on top of a data link layer pro=
tocol like the data </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>layers of ethernet or 802.11, that TCP runs on to=
p of IP and so does </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>UDP, etc etc. I can't see how they're supposed to=
know what the random </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>bits and pieces they are exposed to are for and h=
ow they fit together if </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>they're not given the big picture.</span></font><=
/pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pr=
e></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
er New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Fear not. Such complexities are irrelevant=
for ITA.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Is that a fair comment? So, in my slides I am pre=
senting the TCP/IP </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>five-layer network model: physical, data, network=
, transport, </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>application. I will then go on and cover all the=
bits mentioned in the </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>book plus a few more examples for clarity, but al=
l in the context of the </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>layers. Students will be told that they only need=
to know what's in the </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>book but that the five-layer model is a good way=
to learn it.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pr=
e></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
er New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>None of that is needed for IPM. Just stick=
to the study design. Don't </span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>overcomplicate things: IPM students are FAR from=
technical geniuses :-)</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks in advance for any input I can get</span><=
/font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'>Russell Edwards</span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'=
><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'=
>Whittlesea Secondary College</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pr=
e></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
er New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-- </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-left:=
36.0pt'><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'=
>Mark Kelly</span></font></pre><pre
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w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Manager - Information Systems</span></font></pre>=
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w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>McKinnon Secondary College</span></font></pre><pr=
e
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w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia</s=
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style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
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w"><span
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ft:
36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:
10.0pt'>There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand bina=
ry</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>and those who don't.</span></font></pre><pre
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></pre><pre style=3D'margin-le=
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te>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3D"Couri=
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