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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Yeah, ok, me and my big mouth!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>To Diane: I have emailed you about this. Sorry if you felt
I was getting at you - no way. Your contributions to the list will be valued by
all other list members.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>To Kevork: Yes let us try to encourage all list users to
post attachments to a web stie such as edulists and keep the emails
small</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Robert Hind
(Semi-retired)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ex Traralgon and
Ashwood</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kevork@edulists.com.au href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">Kevork
Krozian</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 31, 2006 1:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Large
attachments</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Folks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> There is an automatic cut-off at 1 MB when
it comes to the total size of any email ( with or without attachments ) . Any
size under that amount is acceptable as far as we have been operating in 2006.
If this size is too large we need to revisit it. But then again, where is the
limit ? 500KB ? ( Diane's file landed at 481KB ) , 250 KB ? or 100 KB ?
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> We did have a bit of a barney about this
issue some time back, and we agreed to cater for the majority hence the 1MB
limit enfroced through the lists. Anything larger does not get through and is
returned to the sender with a message asking to trim the size and send
again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Unless there is a big outcry, we are working on
the 1MB limit for all attachments.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best Wishes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR>Kevork Krozian<BR>Mailing List Creator
and Administrator<BR><A
href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</A><BR><A
href="http://www.edulists.com.au">www.edulists.com.au</A><BR>Tel: 0419 356
034</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dpeat@firbank.vic.edu.au
href="mailto:dpeat@firbank.vic.edu.au">Diane Peat</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers'
Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Large
attachments</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Sorry
everyone – I was so excited to finish and send it, I wasn’t thinking of the
file size.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Diane
Peat<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Firbank
Grammar School<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Tahoma color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Robert Hind<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, 31 December 2006 8:46
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Year 12 IT
Applications Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Year 12 IT Apps] Large
attachments</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Book Antiqua"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Perhaps a New Year
resolution for us all!</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was
out of the city over the New Year weekend and had only a dial-up connection
available. So found a recent email + attachment from the list a
very slow download at 668K in size. Interesting but -</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">even
with broadband, why take up time and space sending large attachments to
everyone. Could we upload any interesting materials to a suitable place and
send out details of the materials in the email together with a link for
those who are interested.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As a
sidelight, it is interesting to note just how much the email encoding
increases the size. In the above example the email came in at 668K but the
attachment itself was only 493K. I have read somewhere - source lost in the
mists of time - that MIME encoding can increase the size by up to 50%.
Tried it out for myself by composing two emails with attachments. Three
.jpg files total size 1,740K created an email of size 2,386K while one .bmp
file of 9,259K created an email of size 12,671K</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Robert Hind
(Semi-retired)</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ex Traralgon and
Ashwood</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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color=black size=3><SPAN
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