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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>A minitie for the winner (big spenders down at Lauriston)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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move with it, and join the dance." Alan Watts</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Meadows, Roslyn M<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 4 December 2006 9:41
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] Record
for number of messages broken !!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#800040" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#800040'>It would be interesting to see a list of
the top ten posters!! But then again maybe we could all work it out!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#800040" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#800040'>Perhaps a competition - guess the top
three posters in correct order??? A mintie for the winner!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#800040" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#800040'>Thanks Kevork for your continued
support!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#800040'>Cheers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>meadowsro@lauriston.vic.edu.au</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt'><a href="mailto:meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au">meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=huge><font size=2 color=maroon
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:maroon'>Home
computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, including the
consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog.</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=maroon><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:maroon'> <br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">Doug Larson</font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Keith Richardson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sat 12/2/2006 7:19 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IPM] Record
for number of messages broken !!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dear
Santork Kev or is it Santa Kevork - You are indeed "a teacher who<br>
changes lives" <<that's a compliment folks>> and in the spirit
of<br>
Christmas may we all collectively thank you for your listization of us<br>
as a group.<br>
Some years ago, Kevork, I made a suggestion that for a variety of<br>
reasons was not taken up, and I would like to make it again. I have my<br>
reasons for this suggestion that crystallized for me during the long<br>
lunch periods at this year's VITTA Conference.<br>
Each day I looked across the sea of faces, totally frustrated because<br>
here were many friends-on-list but I was not able to RECOGNIZE THEIR<br>
FACES because all we ever see is their names. I would have loved to<br>
drift from list-friend to list-friend, picking up comments and<br>
associations, and further enriching our shared experiences for the<br>
following year.<br>
My suggestion? <<Adjust the email list setup so that a tiny photograph<br>
of the sender shows beside their name each time they send replies etc to<br>
the list.>><br>
So there you have it. What do others think?<br>
Merry Christmas to you all!<br>
Keith<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:47:25 +1100, "Kevork Krozian"<br>
<kevork@edulists.com.au> said:<br>
> Hi IPM ( soon to be itapps) colleagues,<br>
><br>
> Well you have done it. In Nov 2006 you posted 435 messages ( about
15<br>
> per day ) overtaking the previous record of 424 (Aug 2006) set by
the<br>
> Business Managers' mailing list. Remember they are at their<br>
> desks/computers almost the whole working day and your working day is
a<br>
> different arrangement.<br>
> I hope the interaction was useful as we enter a new dawn ..... not<br>
> meaning to be too dramatic.<br>
><br>
> While I have your attention. In the next little while the ipm
mailing<br>
> list will be retired and all subscribers will be moved to the new list<br>
> itapps@edulists.com.au . You do not need to do anything. A message will<br>
> go out when the changeover ( will it be direct, phased, pilot or parallel<br>
> ???? -- just kidding ! ) takes place.
Just keep replying to the<br>
> list. For a while both ipm@edulists.com.au and itapps@edulists.com.au<br>
> will go to the same place after which ipm@edulists.com.au will no longer<br>
> exist ........ :( teary eyed ..... I believe it is the first
name<br>
> change for IPM since 1990, though I am happy to be corrected if that is<br>
> wrong.<br>
><br>
> A similar announcement will go out to the is@edulists.com.au list which<br>
> will convert to sofdev@edulists.com.au .<br>
><br>
> The twig on the edulists tree showing ipm will gradually shrink and be<br>
> overtaken by the itapps twig and similarly the is twig will give way to<br>
> the sofdev one. <br>
><br>
> Anyone care to make a speech on the cusp of this momentous occasion or<br>
> are we too busy stressing out about next year ? I am not sure
about<br>
> everyone else but I will have sofdev, yr11it and VET IT which will
all<br>
> be new next year ( I will also teach Cisco CCNA 1-2 and Cisco CCNA 3-4 ).<br>
><br>
> With thanks and Best Wishes to all of you<br>
><br>
> Kevork Krozian<br>
> Mailing List Creator and Administrator<br>
> kevork@edulists.com.au<br>
> www.edulists.com.au<br>
> Tel: 0419 356 034<br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: Roland Gesthuizen<br>
> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management<br>
> Teachers'Mailing List<br>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:30 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams<br>
><br>
><br>
> G'day Keith, my virtual shoes are ringing (or is it my music
player).<br>
> Yesterday my memory laces come loose with too many unanswered
SMS pages<br>
> and I had to reboot the soles. Enjoy the attached
creative writing<br>
> essay by one of my IPM students from four years ago.<br>
><br>
> (* Clicks heels of his red shoes three times, shouting there
is no<br>
> place like school, there is no place like school ... *) Apologies
to<br>
> Dorothy and Toto.<br>
><br>
> Regards Roland<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 01/12/06, Keith Richardson <keithcr@fastmail.fm>
wrote:<br>
> G'day Scotty - suggestion - just timetable virtual
classes with<br>
> virtual<br>
> teachers in virtual spaces then the kids stay at
home, the teachers<br>
> stay<br>
> in the staffroom (to be close to the coffee
machines), and the school<br>
> puts extra Moodle servers into the empty
classrooms. Time becomes<br>
> immaterial because classes may be held either
synchronously (if you<br>
> were<br>
> able to put them together in the timetable, and
asynchronistically at<br>
> other times. It sounds so good, I might just give
it a try<br>
> (joking...).<br>
> Cheers, Keith<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:26:21 +1100, "Mark
Scott"<br>
> <msc@staff.luther.vic.edu.au> said:<br>
> > Keith<br>
> ><br>
> > You sound so progressive and dynamic that it
is depressing, especially<br>
> > when I am knee deep in the mire trying to
build a 2007 timetable and<br>
> > haven't looked at the study design yet.<br>
> ><br>
> > (Pls excuse the whinge)<br>
> > Mark Scott<br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [<a
href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>
> > On Behalf Of Keith Richardson<br>
> > Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 6:20 AM<br>
> > To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing
and Management<br>
> > Teachers'Mailing List<br>
> > Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual Teams<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you Mark and Paula - although I don't
like it, I can see where you<br>
> > are coming from.<br>
> > I personally do not like it because having to
'fake-it' rarely leaves me<br>
> > or the kids satisfied - it seems like science
experiments of old where<br>
> > we tell the kids what 'should' have happened
even though their eyes and<br>
> > ears tell them that it did not.<br>
> > I guess that as long as we expose them to
actually functioning tools<br>
> > albeit not in their actual SAC, they can
become intuitively confident<br>
> > that such functionality does really exist. In
the past I have<br>
> > experienced similar frustrations with wanting
to have functioning<br>
> > databases behind websites.<br>
> > However, for myself I intend trying as hard
as possible to achieve<br>
> > genuine functionality of appropriate
virtual-team-tools within their SAC<br>
> > situation. Time will tell!<br>
> > Keith<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:29:14 +1100,
"Christophersen, Paula P"<br>
> > <christophersen.paula.p@edumail.vic.gov.au
> said:<br>
> > > Mark and colleagues<br>
> > ><br>
> > > This last interpretation of the outcome
(and task requirements) and<br>
> > > advice about teaching and learning and
assessment are timely and<br>
> > > correct.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Regards<br>
> > > Paula<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Paula Christophersen<br>
> > > ICT Curriculum Manager<br>
> > > Victorian Curriculum and Assessment<br>
> > > Authority<br>
> > > 41 <st1:place w:st="on">St Andrews</st1:place>
Place<br>
> > > <st1:place w:st="on">EAST MELBOURNE</st1:place>
3002<br>
> > > Phone: 03 9651 4378<br>
> > > Fax: 03 9651 4324<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [<a
href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>
> > > On Behalf Of Mark Kelly<br>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 8:21
AM<br>
> > > To: Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management<br>
> > > Teachers'Mailing List<br>
> > > Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2 Virtual
Teams<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Key things to remember abuout ITA U3O2, as
I understand it...<br>
> > ><br>
> > > - Knowledge sharing is part of it, but
the solution must also<br>
> > facilitate<br>
> > ><br>
> > > team decision-making. (So a static
website with info on it - as in<br>
> > the<br>
> > > Potts example - is not good.)<br>
> > ><br>
> > > - Features that can't be realistically
created for real can be<br>
> > > simulated. e.g. Create a web forum
lookalike screen in Photoshop; fake<br>
> > a<br>
> > ><br>
> > > web-shopping checkout or online feedback
form, or a networked calendar<br>
> > > or booking sheet with graphics buttons
and the like. Since it's a<br>
> > > prototype website, such parts do not
need to actually work. So the<br>
> > kids<br>
> > ><br>
> > > don't need to actually set up a Miki or
a Woogle, they just have to<br>
> > > indicate that they know it would help
the team share info / make<br>
> > > collaborative decisions.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > - So by all means introduce kids to
relevant tools, but don't freak<br>
> > > yourself out unnecessarily about having
to use them in the outcome.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > As I understand it...<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Mark<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Keith Richardson wrote:<br>
> > > > I am also very confused by this
Geraldine - I am almost tempted to<br>
> > try<br>
> > > > to do it in two parts - one with
website creation, and one using our<br>
> > > > Moodle in the school setting them
the task to design then create<br>
> > > various<br>
> > > > cooperative, virtual team tools and
be able to demonstrate that they<br>
> > > > actually work. I have not planned
more deeply than that yet.<br>
> > > > What do others think?<br>
> > > > Keith<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:23:11 +1100,
"Geraldine McKenna"<br>
> > > > <gmckenna@ozemail.com.au>
said:<br>
> > > >> I still feel quite unclear
about what is expected in this outcome.<br>
> > > Would<br>
> > > >> a<br>
> > > >> link to the Google Docs site
mentioned recently suffice or a link<br>
> > to<br>
> > > a<br>
> > > >> Moodle wiki for sharing
knowledge or a blog? Given that we need to<br>
> > > use<br>
> > > >> web<br>
> > > >> authoring software -
Dreamweaver in my case - I can only imagine<br>
> > > creating<br>
> > > >> links to other tools rather
than actually creating the knowledge<br>
> > > sharing<br>
> > > >> capability within the website.
Can anyone give more specific<br>
> > examples<br>
> > > of<br>
> > > >> how<br>
> > > >> they imagine this prototype
website will look?<br>
> > > >> Geraldine McKenna<br>
> > > >> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Avila</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Thanks also for feedback re VET
Multimedia. Seems it may not be a<br>
> > > more<br>
> > > >> attractive option for girls?<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > >> From:
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au<br>
> > > [mailto: ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au]On<br>
> > > >> Behalf Of Christophersen, Paula
P<br>
> > > >> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006
8:33 AM<br>
> > > >> To: Year 12 Information
Technology Processing and Management<br>
> > > >> Teachers'MailingList<br>
> > > >> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2
Virtual Teams<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Dear colleagues<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> It's great to hear this healthy
discussion regarding Unit 3,<br>
> > Outcome<br>
> > > 2.<br>
> > > >> I just want to stress that when
students independently develop<br>
> > their<br>
> > > >> prototype website, it is OK
just to simulate practices/tools rather<br>
> > > than<br>
> > > >> creating/using them. The main
intention of this part of the outcome<br>
> > > is<br>
> > > >> for students to demonstrate
their understanding of tools/facilities<br>
> > > >> available to support knowledge
sharing and collaborative<br>
> > > >> decision-making.<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> So, when completing this
assessment task, students would design the<br>
> > > >> website, create the homepage
and create/simulate that part of the<br>
> > > >> website that supports knowledge
sharing and collaborative decision<br>
> > > >> making. Then, comes the theory
part on networking.<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Regards<br>
> > > >> Paula<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Paula Christophersen<br>
> > > >> ICT Curriculum Manager<br>
> > > >> Victorian Curriculum and
Assessment<br>
> > > >> Authority<br>
> > > >> 41 <st1:place w:st="on">St
Andrews</st1:place> Place<br>
> > > >> <st1:place w:st="on">EAST
MELBOURNE</st1:place> 3002<br>
> > > >> Phone: 03 9651 4378<br>
> > > >> Fax: 03 9651 4324<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > >> From:
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au<br>
> > > [<a
href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>
> > > >> On Behalf Of Cameron Bell<br>
> > > >> Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006
8:05 AM<br>
> > > >> To: Year 12 Information
Technology Processing and Management<br>
> > > >> Teachers'Mailing List<br>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] U3O2
Virtual Teams<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Likewise. I am wondering about
setting up a Jabber server for such<br>
> > a<br>
> > > >> purpose. Simply to reduce
external traffic costs and bandwidth and<br>
> > > keep<br>
> > > >> it fully internal and "safer"
for students. Has anyone done this<br>
> > yet?<br>
> > > >> Would be interested in
feedback.<br>
> > > >> Cameron<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> Keith Richardson wrote:<br>
> > > >>> Skype has enabled some of
the virtual teams I work in to be fast,<br>
> > > >>> efficient and effective,
but it is real-time. One also needs<br>
> > > >>> a-synchronous tools too.<br>
> > > >>> Keith<br>
> > > >>><br>
> > > >>><br>
> > > >>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006
15:30:47 +1100, "Mark Kelly"<br>
> > > >>> <kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au>
said:<br>
> > > >>><br>
> > > >>>> Yes, but is email a
complete solution? It's certainly relevant<br>
> > and<br>
> > > >>>> important, but can it
achieve everything a virtual team needs?<br>
> > > >>>><br>
> > > >>>> I ask myself (as 3:30
comes and I have to drag myself to a<br>
> > > curriculum<br>
> > > >>>> meeting) why I'm
dragging myself to a meeting. Why couldn't it<br>
> > be<br>
> > > >> done<br>
> > > >>>> by email? If you
can work that out, you may start to see where<br>
> > > >> email's<br>
> > > >>>> limitations begin.<br>
> > > >>>><br>
> > > >>>> 2.2 cents' worth (GST
inc)<br>
> > > >>>><br>
> > > >>>> Off to
curriculum. VELS again.<br>
> > > >>>><br>
> > > >>>> Sigh........<br>
> > > >>>><br>
> > > >>>><br>
> > > >>>> jtabone@aitkencollege.edu.au
wrote:<br>
> > > >>>><br>
> > > >>>>> Dear All<br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>> I am reading with
interest everyone's comments on U302 -<br>
> > > >>>>> collaborative
problem solving within virtual teams and am<br>
> > > wondering<br>
> > > >>>>> if I may be
over-simplifying this outcome task<br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>> Going by the
detailed example in the study design p. 69-70 we<br>
> > are<br>
> > > >>>>> given the scenario
of university located on one<br>
> > > >>>>> "large
campus", whereby management has recently formed as one of<br>
> > > >>>>> their key
objectives to "strengthen current strategic<br>
> > > collaborations<br>
> > > >>>>> and forge new
alliances that will create new knowledge ..."<br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>> The task is then:<br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>> "design and
create a prototype website for <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Sherwood</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
> > > that<br>
> > > >>>>> will enable various
virtual teams ... to realise their goals and<br>
> > > to<br>
> > > >>>>> enhance decision
making, knowledge sharing and collaborative<br>
> > > problem<br>
> > > >>>>> solving"<br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>> Couldn't simply
having an email link solve this problem - yes<br>
> > you<br>
> > > >>>>> would use wikis,
blogs, forums, webcasts, and every other "sexy"<br>
> > > >>>>> tool<br>
> > > >>>>> - however I can
communicate virtually via email to people with<br>
> > the<br>
> > > >>>>> same interest
(teams)<br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>> Really, isn't that
what I am doing right now - sending an email<br>
> > to<br>
> > > a<br>
> > > >>>>> group of people
with a common interest and goal and sharing<br>
> > > >>>>> information and
receiving information in a collaborative<br>
> > > environment<br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>> Just my thoughts<br>
> > > >>>>><br>
> > > >>>>> Cheers<br>
> > > >>>>> Joyce Tabone<br>
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