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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Meadows, Roslyn M<br>
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VCAA/VCE process reminded me of this so I just had to pass it on!! (see
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computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, including the
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Stephen Digby<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Fri 11/24/2006 7:20 AM<=
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Technology Processing and ManagementTeachers'Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] Po=
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Does
outline the flaw in the whole conceptual framework of VCE.... i.e.<br>
<br>
VCAA produces a set of criteria for a house, and hands it to the workers on<=
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site who then have to scurry around to find an archiTEXT - or design the<br>
house themselves on the run (as well as build it of course). <br>
Even when they find an architect, VCAA reminds them that NO architect has<br=
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been checked or recommended and all workers are ON YOUR OWN (except for<br>
friendly self help groups) ......<br>
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Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager<br>
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www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx:<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [<a href=3D"mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.co=
m.au">mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
On<br>
Behalf Of Mark Kelly<br>
Sent: 23 November 2006 02:47 PM<br>
To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management<br>
Teachers'Mailing List<br>
Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Potty Problems<br>
<br>
Hi all.<br>
<br>
I've been poking through the Potts text (uncorrected page proof version<br>
- I have not seen the final edition) and I'm not feeling at all comfortable<=
br>
about their Unit 3 Outcome 2 sample.<br>
<br>
Keeping in mind what Lady Paula C said in a recent email about the risks of<=
br>
using other people's tasks without due care and attention, I fear the sample=
<br>
task might be leading teachers down a dangerous garden path...<br>
and potentially leading to big trouble for students if their means of<br>
assessment are audited at the end of 2007 and found to be deficient.<br>
<br>
The Potts sample U3O2 is a chain of travel agencies that want to sharing<br>
knowledge. That's fine, but there is nothing I can see about
*collaborative<br>
decision making* which is dictated in the study design.<br>
<br>
All the agencies are doing is sharing static information; they are only<br>
disseminating, not collaborating.<br>
<br>
Now, if the branches banded together electronically to plan the end-of-year<=
br>
dinner dance, or created a new advertising blitz as a virtual team, it would=
<br>
meet the requirements of the study design. But at the moment, the info
flow<br>
is only one way: there is no interaction between the team members.<br>
<br>
It worries me that if students create a website that does nothing to<br>
facilitate communication, knowledge exchange and decision making, they will<=
br>
be severely disadvantaged.<br>
<br>
If you are going to use Potts as your starting point for ITA U3O2, I urge<br=
>
you have a good long look at your task and compare it to what the study<br>
design demands of it.<br>
<br>
Hell, ANY task that you borrow from ANY source needs to be checked by you to=
<br>
make sure it's kosher. I'm not just picking on Potts.<br>
<br>
Be especially careful if you're tempted to use tasks adapted from IPM<br>
outcomes: most of the ITA outcomes are fundamentally different to those in<b=
r>
IPM.<br>
<br>
As Paula said earlier: you are ultimately responsible for your assessment.<b=
r>
You can't blame the source of borrowed outcomes if they're flawed - even<br>
mine!<br>
<br>
(Scurries back to my draft outcomes for a fresh look-see)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Manager - Information Systems<br>
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