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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Beautiful ... so ancient (first seen by me in relat=
ion to
the Board of Works in 1976...) ... so true.... some things just never=
change...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Stephen
Digby, Learning Technology Manager <BR><A
href=3D"mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</=
A>
<FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial
size=3D2></FONT></FONT><BR>Cheltenham Secondary College <A
href=3D"http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A> Ph: 613=
955
55 955 Fx: 9555
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The
years teach much which the days never knew.<BR>Ralph Waldo
Emerson</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Meadows, Roslyn
M<BR><B>Sent:</B> 24 November 2006 11:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Informatio=
n
Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B=
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RE: [Year 12 IPM] Potty Problems<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#800040 size=3D2>Steph=
en - your
description of the VCAA/VCE process reminded me of this so I just had to
pass it on!! (see attachment)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT color=3D#800040 size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Ros Meadows</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Lauriston Girls School</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"mailto:meadowsro@lauriston.vic.edu.au"><FONT
size=3D2>meadowsro@lauriston.vic.edu.au</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A
href=3D"mailto:meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au">meadows.roslyn.m@edumail=
.vic.gov.au</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3Dhuge><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Home computers are be=
ing called
upon to perform many new functions, including the consumption of homework
formerly eaten by the dog.</FONT></SPAN><FONT color=3D#800000 size=3D2>
<BR></FONT><SPAN class=3Dbodybold><FONT size=3D2><FONT color=3D#800000><STRO=
NG>Doug
Larson</STRONG></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on beh=
alf of
Stephen Digby<BR><B>Sent:</B> Fri 11/24/2006 7:20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Year 12=
Information Technology Processing and ManagementTeachers'Mailing
List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IPM] Potty Problems<BR></FONT><BR></DI=
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<P><FONT size=3D2>Does outline the flaw in the whole conceptual framework of=
VCE.... i.e.<BR><BR>VCAA produces a set of criteria for a house, and hands i=
t to
the workers on<BR>site who then have to scurry around to find an archiTEXT -=
or
design the<BR>house themselves on the run (as well as build it of
course). <BR>Even when they find an architect, VCAA reminds them that N=
O
architect has<BR>been checked or recommended and all workers are ON YOUR OWN=
(except for<BR>friendly self help groups)
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Stephen
Digby, Learning Technology Manager<BR><A
href=3D"mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</=
A> <BR>Cheltenham
Secondary College www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au Ph: 613 955 55 955 Fx:<BR>95=
55
8617<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR><BR><BR>In
every work of genius we recognize our own rejected thoughts: they come<BR>ba=
ck
to us with a certain alienated majesty.<BR>Ralph Waldo
Emerson<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: ipm-bounces@edulists.com.=
au
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href=3D"mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.=
au</A>]
On<BR>Behalf Of Mark Kelly<BR>Sent: 23 November 2006 02:47 PM<BR>To: Year 12=
Information Technology Processing and Management<BR>Teachers'Mailing
List<BR>Subject: [Year 12 IPM] Potty Problems<BR><BR>Hi all.<BR><BR>I've bee=
n
poking through the Potts text (uncorrected page proof version<BR>- I have no=
t
seen the final edition) and I'm not feeling at all comfortable<BR>about thei=
r
Unit 3 Outcome 2 sample.<BR><BR>Keeping in mind what Lady Paula C said in a=
recent email about the risks of<BR>using other people's tasks without due ca=
re
and attention, I fear the sample<BR>task might be leading teachers down a
dangerous garden path...<BR>and potentially leading to big trouble for stude=
nts
if their means of<BR>assessment are audited at the end of 2007 and found to=
be
deficient.<BR><BR>The Potts sample U3O2 is a chain of travel agencies that w=
ant
to sharing<BR>knowledge. That's fine, but there is nothing I can see a=
bout
*collaborative<BR>decision making* which is dictated in the study
design.<BR><BR>All the agencies are doing is sharing static information; the=
y
are only<BR>disseminating, not collaborating.<BR><BR>Now, if the branches ba=
nded
together electronically to plan the end-of-year<BR>dinner dance, or created=
a
new advertising blitz as a virtual team, it would<BR>meet the requirements o=
f
the study design. But at the moment, the info flow<BR>is only one way:=
there is no interaction between the team members.<BR><BR>It worries me that=
if
students create a website that does nothing to<BR>facilitate communication,=
knowledge exchange and decision making, they will<BR>be severely
disadvantaged.<BR><BR>If you are going to use Potts as your starting point f=
or
ITA U3O2, I urge<BR>you have a good long look at your task and compare it to=
what the study<BR>design demands of it.<BR><BR>Hell, ANY task that you borro=
w
from ANY source needs to be checked by you to<BR>make sure it's kosher. =
;
I'm not just picking on Potts.<BR><BR>Be especially careful if you're tempte=
d to
use tasks adapted from IPM<BR>outcomes: most of the ITA outcomes are
fundamentally different to those in<BR>IPM.<BR><BR>As Paula said earlier: yo=
u
are ultimately responsible for your assessment.<BR>You can't blame the sourc=
e of
borrowed outcomes if they're flawed - even<BR>mine!<BR><BR>(Scurries back to=
my
draft outcomes for a fresh look-see)<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Mark
Kelly<BR>Manager - Information Systems<BR>McKinnon Secondary College<BR>McKi=
nnon
Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia Direct line / Voicemail: 8520<BR>9085=
School Phone +613 8520 9000 <<< NEW NUMBER School Fax +613
95789253<BR><BR>Webmaster - <A
href=3D"http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">http://www.mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</=
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