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ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Very good points !!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Had forgotten how much hasle getting past data from=
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files was.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Would XML be as good ??? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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ial 
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Digby, Learning Technology Manager <BR><A 
href=3D"mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</=
A> 
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size=3D2></FONT></FONT><BR>Cheltenham Secondary College <A 
href=3D"http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A> Ph: 613=
 955 
55 955&nbsp; Fx: 9555 
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have seen the future and it is just like the present, only longer. Kehlog 
Albran</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au 
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland 
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 November 2006 12:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 
Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing 
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IPM] OT: VELS ICT<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>That raises two fascinating issues that are worth raising with yo=
ur 
students. As my teacher-librarian is at pains to point out when I explored 
backing up the school video collection, we shouldn't confuse issues of archi=
ving 
with those for digital storage. <BR><BR>Good archiving demands the skills of=
 a 
highly trained and experienced individual to maintain, prune and perhaps the=
 
oversee the ultimate destruction of data in the archive. The expectation tha=
t a 
school will to archive all the student electronic portfolios work for remote=
 
access beyond their term of stay is probably unreasonable. Commercial softwa=
re 
vendors would like to make us think that a one stop solution will continue t=
o be 
supported for another decade and serve school needs. Only a few schools had=
 a 
website 10 years ago, I wont try to predict where we will be in another 10.=
 In 
20 years we may laugh at many of our quaint ideas and practices.<BR><BR>Anot=
her 
issue is that of digital decay. T<STRONG style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: normal">oday'=

digital documents face a more serious threat: the disappearance of computers=
 and 
software able to read them. </STRONG>Some of my older documents can already=
 no 
longer be read by MS Office (the list of file imports is getting smaller wit=

each release). With perhaps some scorn leveled at me by colleagues, I have t=
aken 
the lead from the Australian National Library and insist on using a standard=

driven format called OpenDocument to archive my work for long term storage.=
 
Without emulators, I will happily buy a bunch of flowers in 2020 for anybody=
 who 
will still be able to open my first experiments with Kahootz. (We cannot leg=
ally 
copy, redistribute or media shift commercial software on that .. hmm, was it=
 
called a CDROM?) If only I could get Easycal working again, I could recover=
 my 
first ever spreadsheet .. then again, I could always start with Load Runner=
 and 
<FONT size=3D-1>Canyon Climber </FONT>.. where did I put that 5.25" drive 
hmm&nbsp; :-)<BR><BR>Regards Roland<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 30/10/06, <B class=3Dgmail_sendername>Jose=
ph 
Papaleo</B> &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:josephpapaleo@gmail.com"> 
josephpapaleo@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN>
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid">Moodle 
  sounds great, but I'm not familiar enough with it, therefore the question.=
.. 
  <BR>Can students continue to use thier moodle page after leaving the 
  school?<BR><BR><BR><BR>Thanks <BR>Joseph Papaleo<BR>Ivanhoe Grammar School=
 
  <DIV><SPAN class=3De id=3Dq_10e9940725e88df6_1><BR><BR><BR>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 10/30/06, <B class=3Dgmail_sendername>St=
ephen 
  Digby</B> &lt;<A onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"=
 
  href=3D"mailto:digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au" target=3D_blank> 
  digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au</A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote 
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(20=
4,204,204) 1px solid">
    <DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
e=3D2>Digital 
    portfolios are a breeze with moodle....&nbsp; Just create a course calle=

    ePortfolio and create as many sections as you wish.&nbsp; Automatically=
 
    students have a secure private place to add text, graphics and multimedi=

    content.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
e=3D2>I have 
    even added a section for parents to view all their past reports 
    online.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff 
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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e=3D2>
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Stephen 
    Digby, Learning Technology Manager <BR><A 
    onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
    href=3D"mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au" 
    target=3D_blank>mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A> &nbsp;<FONT face=3D=
Arial 
    size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></FONT><BR>Cheltenham Second=
ary 
    College <A onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
    href=3D"http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/" target=3D_blank>www.cheltsec.vi=
c.edu.au 
    </A>Ph: 613 955 55 955&nbsp; Fx: 9555 
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BR>Parenthood 
    is a lot easier to get into than out of. ~Bruce Lansky</FONT></SPAN></DI=
V>
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    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
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    <HR>
    <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> <A 
    onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
    href=3D"mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au" 
    target=3D_blank>ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto:<A 
    onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
    href=3D"mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au" 
    target=3D_blank>ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Les=
ley 
    Humphries<BR><B>Sent:</B> 27 October 2006 11:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12=
 
    Information Technology Processing and ManagementTeachers' Mailing 
    List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Year 12 IPM] OT: VELS ICT<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN>
    <DIV></DIV>Hello everyone,<BR><BR>Now that the IPM classes are over, I'v=

    been looking more carefully at the VELS stuff. From Level 3, our student=

    are meant to be keeping a digital bank of evidence... How are others goi=
ng 
    to work this? Any ideas?<BR><BR>Thanks, Lesley<BR><BR>&gt; Michael,<BR>&=
gt; 
    <BR>&gt; We are about to do this at Kew High School. We will use either=
 Wax 
    (open<BR>&gt; source) or we also have Sony Vegas Movie Studio. Our drama=
 
    assistant<BR>&gt; experienced with a few different colour backgrounds an=

    she has decided<BR>&gt; on a green colour which she matched with one of=
 the 
    settings from Wax.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Bruce<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>=
&gt; 
    ________________________________<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: <A 
    onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
    href=3D"mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au" 
    target=3D_blank>ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto:<A 
    onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
    href=3D"mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au" target=3D_blank> 
    ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>]<BR>&gt; On Behalf Of Michael Torsello 
    (Mr)<BR>&gt; Sent: Friday, 27 October 2006 9:37 AM<BR>&gt; To: <A 
    onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" 
    href=3D"mailto:ipm@fhc.vic.edu.au" 
    target=3D_blank>ipm@fhc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>&gt; Subject: [Year 12 IPM] OT=

    Green Screening with computers<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; Dear 
    Colleagues<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I have an Off Topic question that I hope som=
eone 
    can answer.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; My Drama teacher would li=
ke 
    to invest in some computer technology that<BR>&gt; allows for green (or=
 
    blue) screen editing i.e., filming actors in front<BR>&gt; of a green sc=
reen 
    and allowing the computer user to change the<BR>&gt; background. You wou=
ld 
    have heard of it being used in films and for<BR>&gt; weather 
    reports.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; However we have a disagreeme=
nt 
    as to the requirements of such a project<BR>&gt; regarding software, 
    computer specs etc. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Does anyone know=
 of 
    a school that has successfully implemented such a<BR>&gt; project, perha=
ps 
    in their Drama or Media Studies department?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I would lov=
e to 
    hear from them, with the possibility of a visit.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
    ---------------------------------- <BR>&gt; With thanks <BR>&gt; Michael=
 
    Torsello <BR>&gt; ! Director of Computing <BR>&gt; St Margaret's School,=
 
    Berwick <BR>&gt; Ph: (03) 9703 8111 <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;=
 
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  <BR><SPAN class=3Dsg>Joseph Papaleo</SPAN>
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</SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>Roland Gesthu=
izen - 
ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College<BR><A 
href=3D"http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au">http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au</A>=
<BR><BR>"Never 
doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the wo=
rld; 
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