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It was interesting that's what I understood.<br>
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] Database software for 2007
Half of my IPM class this year used OpenOffice, the other half used
Access.
An interesting experiment.
Margaret
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<pre wrap="">Couldn't agree more, the more I use Open Office, the more I like it.
Once you get over the "Office doesn't do it that way" you appreciate
that a lot of the differences are actually more productive (IMHO)
The persistent data sources for mail merges are very handy and context
sensitive dialogs are only just starting to be a part of MSOffice with
the upcomming version.
The major benefits I see are:
the open file formats - long term accessibility.
multi platform (Win, Mac AND Linux)
Oh and did you mention it was free for the whole school community?
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<pre wrap="">Far more beneficial for students to be able to access the same apps at
home than only at school. If they can do more exploration/ development
at home, you break the mindset that some have of only learning and
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Cheers
Cameron
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Hi all. Here's a frisky cat to throw among the pigeons.
I'm curious what database management software will people be using
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<pre wrap="">ITA Unit 3 Outcome 1 next year?
At the VITTA presentation I did on ITA in August, I recommended that
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<pre wrap="">we got organised and agreed on a standard tool we could be much more
efficient when sharing tutorials, sample tasks, tips and hints,
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<pre wrap="">outcomes etc - all of which will be a big in 2007 as we adjust to the
new course.
The main DBMS contenders I see are:
--- MS Access
- Access is not a standard part of the average MS Office suite
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<pre wrap="">so many kids are unlikely to have it at home, so it would be hard to
assign homework or practice tasks using it.
- It costs big money if kids have to buy it for home.
- It costs big money for non-government schools.
- For most people, it's not as easy to learn as Filemaker is.
--- Filemaker
- Even fewer kids are likely to have Filemaker at home, so assigning
home practice would be nearly impossible.
- It's easy to learn (especially creating programming scripts) and
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<pre wrap="">to use.
- It costs big money if kids had to buy it for home.
- It costs big money for schools to buy.
(Having said that, it's the database I use for McKinnon's reporting
package, and the database I'm most skilled with.)
--- OpenOffice.org Base
- It's FREE for students and schools.
- It's compatible with MS Access (and can read Access database files)
- It's pretty much as easy to use as Access.
- There's some online support for it, but more is coming and we can
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<pre wrap="">as a team to develop all we need!
- Did I mention it's FREE?
- It comes with other open source replacements for Word, Excel,
Powerpoint, drawing software etc.
- It even has its own equivalent of VBA for programming macros.
- Oh yeah - and it's FREE!
--- MySQL
I only include this because I've heard of one school planning to use
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<pre wrap=""> I would not recommend it because it's far too complex for kids to
learn from scratch in VCE: too much programming required to get the
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<pre wrap="">done. Way overkill, IMHO.
If you get some time as the year winds down, how about getting a copy
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<pre wrap="">(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://openoffice.org">http://openoffice.org</a>) - it's about 50M to download, and is
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Have a play, see what you think.
Cheers
Mark K
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