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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 10 July 2006 5:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 1=
2
Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IPM] ultranet<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Thanks Stephen, .. and we should add continue spending squillions=
to
support their software projects. Sadly, the educational landscape is covered=
with the bones and parched remains of many good projects launched with good=
intentions and early funding. I honestly wish Ultranet all the best but must=
admit to having having some serious doubts about its long term viability ..=
aware that it wont serve the needs of my Catholic and Independent school fri=
ends
on this list. Whilst NASA got a man on the moon by throwing money at all and=
every problem .. even they stopped to take a breath and rethink the mad race=
by
forming strategic partnerships with a wider community instead of reinventing=
the
wheel. <BR><BR>Whilst open source solutions may not suit everybody, they do=
have
nothing to hide and provide avenues to grow and develop beyond the original=
project brief. Solutions such as <A href=3D"http://moodle.org">Moodle </A>ca=
n
scale from small sites such as primary schools to Major enterprises such as=
the
Open University. With any content or course management system, users can onl=
y
get out of it from what they are prepared to put into it. As I now remind my=
student teachers, Windows is just an operating system, Cola is just lemonade=
,
Moodle is just another tool .. now get out there, inspire, raise hell and ma=
ke a
real difference! <BR><BR>Regards Roland<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3Dgmail_quote>On 08/07/06, <B class=3Dgmail_sendername>Step=
hen
Digby</B> <<A
href=3D"mailto:digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au">digby.stephen.p@edumail.v=
ic.gov.au</A>>
wrote: </SPAN>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,=
204,204) 1px solid">Waiting
for a reply from Mark Kelly (<A
href=3D"mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au </A>)=
as
McKinnon<BR>is one of the development schools for this.<BR>Many previous
discussions in the past from me and others (others and I ?)<BR>can be foun=
d at
<A href=3D"http://www.edulists.com.au/htdig">http://www.edulists.com.au/ht=
dig
</A><BR><BR>An Australian open source "ultranet" racehorse "Moodle" is
running<BR>wonderfully in Oz and around the world. I just hope that DET is=
not<BR>investing squillions of our dollars and time in another CASES camel=
which we <BR>will all be forced to use to justify the
investment....<BR><BR>There is the additional problem that Ultranet is lik=
ely
to be proprietary<BR>(user pays); closed source (no control over tweaking/=
options or<BR>development). <BR><BR>What IS happening
!!!!<BR><BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Stephen
Digby, Learning Technology Manager<BR><A
href=3D"mailto:digby.stephen.p@edumail.vic.gov.au">digby.stephen.p@edumail=
.vic.gov.au</A><BR>Cheltenham
Secondary College <A
href=3D"http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</A> Ph: 61=
3 955
55 955 Fx:<BR>9555
8617<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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R>From: <A
href=3D"mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</A=
>
[mailto:<A
href=3D"mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</A=
> ]
On<BR>Behalf Of Robyn Dunn<BR>Sent: 07 July 2006 03:11 PM<BR>To: Year 12
Information Technology Processing and Management<BR>Teachers'Mailing
List<BR>Subject: [Year 12 IPM] ultranet<BR><BR>Has anyone heard of this ne=
w
ultranet idea. This is a web site about it. <BR><A
href=3D"http://www.sofweb.vic.edu.au/blueprint/fs1/s@c.htm">http://www.sof=
web.vic.edu.au/blueprint/fs1/s@c.htm</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Ms
Robyn Dunn<BR>ICT Co-Ordinator<BR>Camberwell High School<BR>email: <A
href=3D"mailto:du@camhigh.vic.edu.au">du@camhigh.vic.edu.au</A><BR>phone:=
98360555<BR>fax:
98360194<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR><A=
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<BR><BR>"Never
doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the wo=
rld;
indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
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