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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t see a problem teaching
databases, particularly if you go for something like a forum or cms website
using MySQL and php. Many kids use forums.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Not difficult for kids to put together a
very basic forum, matchmaking or ebay site, maybe as a group task<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ve been playing with an on-line
footy tipping site (a bit beyond most kids!). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><br>
It’s a bit different from yor average comp in that teams are weighted
(/100) and you get more points by selecting an underdog that gets up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Everyone is welcome to check it out with
User name Demo and password 123456.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.torquayfc.com/Footy_tipping">http://www.torquayfc.com/Footy_tipping</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>(done with MySQL and php)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The forum on this site is very ‘bare
bones’<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">High School</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><font size=2
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PS I’m planning to do a php/MySQL
article for Infonet in the near future<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark Scott<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 1 May 2006 1:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'MailingList<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] VITTA
Annual Conference 2006 --- Call forPapers-NOW OPEN</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You are quite right.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Spreadsheets and
databases: a bold step backwards.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Mark Scott</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Arial;color:navy'>Luther</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceName></span></font></st1:place><font
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font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Leanne Wright<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 1 May 2006 12:08 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] VITTA
Annual Conference 2006 --- Call for Papers-NOW OPEN</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm puzzled by what seems to be your implication that
spreadsheets and databases require no imagination, creativity or thinking.
Certainly ones with any degree of complexity would require all three. Surely
the teaching of IT should be about more than just keeping the kiddies amused
with 'gee whiz look at this!' type programmes and pay at least some
attention to giving our students some marketable skills. Example - my son in <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">London</st1:City></st1:place> has no difficulty
finding temporary day time jobs for around $25-$30 per hour using spreadsheets
and databases. His travelling companion who is a whiz at computer graphics and
animations currently earns $12-50 an hour working all night doing bar
work. I rest my case. Leanne W<br>
<br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on"><b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Mark
Scott</span></i></b></st1:PersonName><b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'> <msc@staff.luther.vic.edu.au></span></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt'>How apporpriate.<br>
<br>
A conference titled "Imagination, Creativity & Thinking" just as
we enter a new study design where Databases and Spreadsheets are mandated.<br>
<br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark Scott</st1:PersonName><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Luther</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
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________________________________<br>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</st1:PersonName> on
behalf of Kevork Krozian<br>
Sent: Sat 29/04/2006 5:51 PM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year 12 Information Technology Systems Teachers'
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: [Year 12 IPM] VITTA Annual Conference 2006 --- Call for Papers -NOW
OPEN<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi Folks,<br>
<br>
Apologies for duplcates of this message.<br>
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VITTA Annual Conference 2006<br>
November 20-22, Flemington Racecourse<br>
<br>
<br>
Call for Papers - NOW OPEN<br>
<br>
ICT Educators from primary and secondary schools, tertiary institutions,<br>
sector authorities, business and industry are invited to participate in<br>
building the program of Victorian Information Technology Teachers<br>
Association's 2006 Annual Conference.<br>
<br>
Conference Theme - ICT: Imagination, Creativity & Thinking<br>
<br>
³Young people need to develop the creative skills needed in the workplace<br>
of the future. Fast-moving technology and global communications call for an<br>
ability to produce creative solutions to complex problems. Creative teaching<br>
practices can help develop and release students¹ creativity, increasing<br>
their ability to solve problems, think independently and work flexibly.²<br>
(<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">DfES</st1:City>, <st1:country-region
w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region></st1:place>, 2005)<br>
<br>
Creativity is moving up the school agenda. As it does so, the emphasis is on<br>
creative thinking applicable across all curriculum areas. It promotes<br>
originality, collaboration and creative spaces. For children to be creative<br>
they need stimuli. These may include curriculum, technologies or buildings<br>
that stimulate expressive responses, but may also include difficult,<br>
real-life problems that require creative thinking to solve.<br>
<br>
Creativity involves thinking or behaving imaginatively. Part of the<br>
challenge of creativity for both teachers and students is the willingness to<br>
explore the unknown, to be innovative, to *risk-take¹ and to collaborate<br>
between classes and schools.<br>
<br>
Consider the levels of creative opportunity in your school or classroom.<br>
<br>
? What can you do to encourage creativity in your own practice and in your<br>
students¹ learning?<br>
<br>
? Can the school environment and your classroom be changed to promote<br>
creativity and imagination?<br>
<br>
? Can the organisation of the school day be altered to promote creativity<br>
and thinking?<br>
<br>
The innovative three-day conference program is designed to provide attendees<br>
with a variety of lecture style presentations, demonstrations, hands-on<br>
computer sessions and trade show demonstrations, incorporating best practice<br>
teaching and learning. There are many opportunities for presenters to<br>
effectively communicate their ideas and share innovative practices.<br>
<br>
Abstract submissions are now being accepted - simply log in to your VITTA<br>
account to submit. If you do not already hold a VITTA web account, you will<br>
firstly need to activate an account.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
To submit your abstract for this years conference, please go to<br>
http://www.vitta.org.au/c4p <br>
<HTTP: c4p www.vitta.org.au>Submissions close May 30th<br>
<br>
Enquiries: VITTA ph 9495 6836, conference@vitta.org.au <br>
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