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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Margaret makes a very vaild point here - i would
argue that if i have to run a combined course for VCE, where there is a large
amount of marking and preparation, then i ought to be given a small time
allowance for it. The volume of work does depend on the number of students
though - what numbers are we talikng here?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andrew Grimshaw</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Colac College</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mlawson@stmichaels.vic.edu.au
href="mailto:mlawson@stmichaels.vic.edu.au">Lawson, Margaret</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ipm@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:ipm@edulists.com.au">Year 12 Information Technology Processing
and Management Teachers'MailingList</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:15
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to
list</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=244021122-05122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I don't have an issue with combined classes, in some
sense it can benefit the kids. At two of my past schools I have run combined
classes because of timetabling clashes (evil timetablers ...).
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=244021122-05122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>What I do have a problem with is the administration
writing it down as one teaching allotment rather than two. You still have
two courses that you have to structure, assess and write exams for.
In a sense combining the curriculum of two subjects into one class and trying
to get a meaningful structure and lessons is perhaps harder and more
challenging.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=244021122-05122005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Margaret</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lel, Ronald
A<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 6 December 2005 9:02 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'MailingList<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Robert Minato<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 6 December 2005 8:29
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IPM] IPM New to
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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Some of the class are
only YR10s and I believe far from ready for IPM. Numbers were such that the
subject wasn't initially going to run; however, sufficient students were
available to do it as a combined class. <BR><BR>It ran as a combined class
this year.<BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Robert Minato<BR>Teacher<BR>Catholic College
Wodonga<BR>02 6059 1222<BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
class=008385121-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> Snipped</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=008385121-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Well good luck Robert. I'd be really interested in knowing
how your DP taught this and what strategies he/she used to combine
2 classes which, as has already been pointed out, have quite different
philosophies underpinning them. It seems like another case of administrative
expediency replacing kids' education and learning.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=008385121-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Ron Lel</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=008385121-05122005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Croydon Secondary College</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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