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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=gray face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'>If they were silly enough
not to guess they deserve to lose a Mark.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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size=2 color=gray><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceName></span></font></b></st1:place><b><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=gray face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'>PS Ros, I love the quote (just
look at any Maths class)<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Meadows, Roslyn M<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 30 November 2005
4:45<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM]
Question 5 - the verdict!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#800040" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#800040'>Congratulations Mark!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#800040" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#800040'>One question though, in reference to</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#800040" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#800040'>'</span></font><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>no student who attempted it will lose a<br>
mark.'</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color="#800040" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:#800040'>Does this mean students who did not attempt it will lose
a mark?<br>
Surely Dr Peck means that this question will not be counted at all for any
student, and that the final score for the MC section will be out of 19?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Times New Roman"><span
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10.0pt'><a href="mailto:meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au">meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:maroon'>"Furious activity is no substitute
for understanding." <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>H. H. Williams</span></b></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Mark Kelly<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed 11/30/2005 2:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Year 12 IPM] Question 5
- the verdict!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Party time,
fellow IPMers: the response from the VCAA about the IPM Q5<br>
disaster...<br>
<br>
Dear Mr Kelly,<br>
<br>
I am responding to your message dated 15 November about Question 5 in<br>
the VCE examination in Information Processing and Management, which was<br>
forwarded to me by Paula Christophersen.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your detailed comments on this question, relating to the<br>
"application for copyright" and the ambiguity. Following discussions<br>
between VCAA staff and the Chief Assessor, Question 5 has been re-scored.<br>
<br>
I am pleased to report that no student who attempted it will lose a<br>
mark. This will be reflected in students' results, the VCE Examination<br>
Results Service and in the Assessment Report.<br>
<br>
I trust you find this outcome satisfactory. Thank you for your<br>
constructive feedback on the examination.<br>
<br>
Yours sincerely,<br>
<br>
Dr Bob Peck<br>
Manager, VCE Examinations<br>
<br>
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My original complaint follows...<br>
<br>
This is an official request to the VCAA to disregard IPM's multiple<br>
choice question 5 in exam marking.<br>
<br>
The question is fatally flawed and no-one can be fairly assessed by<br>
whatever answer they give.<br>
<br>
1. The premise of the question is simply incorrect in law.
Copyright<br>
in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>
is never sought nor given. It is automatically assigned to<br>
the creator of any intellectual property. It is not registered like<br>
trade marks and patents are.<br>
<br>
2. The question is imcomprehensible. Does Crazy Cartoons create<br>
cartoons and sell them to clients? If so, what's the stuff about<br>
copyright details on the invoice for? What does 'copyright details'<br>
refer to? And what are the 'GST charges related to the copyright'?<br>
<br>
OR does Crazy Cartoons earn its money by getting copyright for its<br>
clients' cartoons? (Which is impossible by Australian copyright law.)<br>
<br>
Even if the question is not bad enough, none of the answers is<br>
satisfactory.<br>
<br>
Putting GST on an invoice is mandatory, but listing copyright details<br>
(whatever that means) is optional...<br>
<br>
So when the question asks "THIS is an example..." which
"this" are the<br>
examiners referring to - the GST, the copyright details? The answer must<br>
be <B> and <D>.<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
No student deserves to lose marks on this question because of its<br>
serious deficiencies. An A+ student and an E student cannot be<br>
distinguished by their answers.<br>
<br>
Sincerely<br>
<br>
Mark Kelly<br>
<br>
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Mark Kelly<br>
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