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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Mark Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:17
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'MailingList<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 IPM] ICT and IT?
Justification<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=gray size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray">FileMaker is great
teaching tool for those students who will never develop or seriously use a
database but will need an understanding of what one
is.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=gray size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray">Access is a dreadful
teaching tool, students are able to successfully create a semi-sophisticated
database with out understanding what they are
doing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray">IM(ns)HO<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray">Mark
Scott</SPAN></FONT></B></st1:PersonName><B><FONT color=gray size=2><SPAN
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w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceName></SPAN></FONT></B></st1:place><B><FONT
color=gray size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=gray size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray">PS Haven’t we had this
conversation before once or twice : )<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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<DIV>Technology Teachers Association Inc <SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN class=444462300-17112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yes
we</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>have Mark, and told you
what I thought then. Afaiak Filemaker is a toy. Anyway, your post does not
disagree with what I said in mine where I commented on the use of databases in
commercial settings. I did say that FM had gained a foothold in educational
environments.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444462300-17112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Incidentally, why are you top posting? You know that's poor posting
etiquette. That's another thing we talked about. :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444462300-17112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ron
Lel</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444462300-17112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Croydon Secondary College</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=444462300-17112005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>(Soon to be Thailand Secondary
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