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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=gray face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'>FileMaker is great
teaching tool for those students who will never develop or seriously use a
database but will need an understanding of what one is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'>Access is a dreadful
teaching tool, students are able to successfully create a semi-sophisticated
database with out understanding what they are doing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'>IM(ns)HO<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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color:gray;font-weight:bold'>Luther</span></font></b></st1:PlaceName><b><font
size=2 color=gray><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceName></span></font></b></st1:place><b><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=gray face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:gray;font-weight:bold'>PS Haven’t we had
this conversation before once or twice : )<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Lel, Ronald A<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 17 November 2005
9:18<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Year 12 Information Technology
Processing and Management Teachers'MailingList<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] ICT and
IT? Justification</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>O'Connor, Peter T<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 16 November 2005
3:16 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] ICT and
IT? Justification</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Rod,</span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> snipped</span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> And don't get me
started on Access -no one in their right mind would ever use seriously in
business or anywhere else for that matter - IMHO.</span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> snipped </span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>__________</span></font><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Peter O'Connor</span></font><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bayside College<font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'> </span></font></span></font><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Oh really!! Peter,
sorry but this is an extremely ill informed comment, as well as being factually
incorrect. FYI there are many companies which develop in Access. A very common
application is an Access front end hooked into a SQL backend for example. Other
companies develop full solutions in Access, especially for smaller to mid range
businesses.</span></font><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Now Filemaker otoh is an
application that is not used seriously in the IT world, but seems to have
cropped up in educational settings.</span></font><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ron Lel</span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Croydon</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rod Kendall<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 16 November 2005
12:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Year 12 IPM] ICT and IT?
Justification</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This follows on from the
discussion that Keith started months ago…….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think that we need to
get clear in our own heads the difference between ICT and IT.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here are a few questions
that need to be answered?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As a subject area, do we
not have content that is subject specific to be taught ? Eg SDLC, Hardware and
Software. I see IT curriculum as important as any other subject area. We have a
curriculum that culminates in a VCE study either IPM or IS. It is ridiculous to
say that students can turn up in Year 10/11 and suddenly acquire the full range
of skills and knowledge to pass these VCE exams. We do not do that to students
of English. (My College teaches the basis of programming concepts and the SDLC
(and other like topis) as low as Year 5 – this provides the basis for a
steady build up of skills and knowledge through Year 5, 6, 7 , 8 , 9
(compulsory IT) and Years 10,11, and 12 (optional).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are there not skills that
IT will teach that may not be covered in an ICT based curriculum? Eg creating
access databases, how to connect up a scanner etc<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I find it hard to swallow
that we cannot justify our own curriculum.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>These are my
thoughts…interested in others<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rod<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color="#0080c0" face=Verdana><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana;color:#0080C0;font-weight:bold'>Rod <U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Kendall</U1:PLACE></st1:place></span></font></i></b></em><font
color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Head of Information and Communication
Technologies (ICT)<br>
Head of Information Technology (Keilor Campus)</span></font><font color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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tabIndex="0" w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Overnewton</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
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font-family:Arial;color:navy'></U1:PLACENAME> <U1:PLACENAME u2:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
tabIndex="0" w:st="on">Anglican</U1:PLACENAME></st1:PlaceName> <U1:PLACETYPE u2:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
tabIndex="0" w:st="on">Community College</U1:PLACETYPE></st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place></U1:PLACE><U1:STREET u2:st="on"><U1:ADDRESS u2:st="on"><font
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<st1:Street
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tabIndex="0" w:st="on">2-30 Overnewton Rd</U1:ADDRESS></U1:STREET></st1:address></st1:Street>
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Keilor VIC 3036<br>
Direct Tel : 03 9334 0134<br>
<U1:CITY u2:st="on"><U1:PLACE u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
tabIndex="0" w:st="on">Mobile</U1:PLACE></U1:CITY></st1:City></st1:place>:
0418 138 601<br>
Fax: 03 9336 1835</span></font><font color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin, Michael M<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 November 2005 12:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName tabIndex="0"
style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
w:st="on">Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Year 12 IPM] RE: ICT
Coordinator duties and time allowances</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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I have concerns with ICT according to VELS. Our IPM classes are
down from 3 this year to 1 next year. My principal is talking about
removing IT from Years 7 and 8, making 9/10 as electives and teaching ICT
skills across the other subject. Many teachers seem to have
concerns. What are the navigator schools doing? What is their
approach to ICT according to VELS? Please advise.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Mon 14/11/2005 4:39 PM<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IPM] RE: ICT
Coordinator duties and time allowances</span></font><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks
for the post Leanne, sad to read some of these changes going on<br>
around the traps. How do they fit into the broader context of the<br>
implementation of VELS into your school? We may need to watch that we<br>
don't inflict up on students a new ailment of "IT death by Google or<br>
powerpoint". It has taken some convincing here that IT has been much<br>
much more ever teaching kids how to use PowerPoint.<br>
<br>
Somebody asked what it would take to replace an ICT trained teacher. I<br>
have been a wag to respond in kind if there was a 2 hour workshop that<br>
an ICT teacher could do before teaching a year 10 English class ..<br>
afterall, don't we all speak, read and write English? (no disrespect<br>
intended to English staff) I have also insisted that I embrace my
work<br>
as part of a professional learning team but will be offended if I am not<br>
consulted or it is assumed that I have been.<br>
<br>
I like some aspects of VELS but also understand that most IT trained<br>
teachers have studied long and hard to qualify for their method area.<br>
Naturally they may feel quite alone and humiliated if they are sidelined<br>
and marginalised from any discussions about these changes.<br>
<br>
Regards Roland<br>
<br>
Biggins, Leanne D wrote:<br>
<br>
>Hi Ros,<br>
>This year at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
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manager / coordinator (me) has had 2 periods allowance per 10 day cycle - ie 1
period per week.<br>
>The duties include liasing with the ICT tech staff who service the entire
college, looking after budgets and orders, and checking that the relevant exams
are prepared and submitted.<br>
>Since I have been the only full time IT teacher for the last 2 years, most
of this just related to me, but there have been up to 5 others taking a class
or 3 here and there. I have done curriculum where there were parallel
classes to mine, and suggested units in the classes that I don't teach, but I
am not officially responsible for curriculum and neither are any of the other
program managers. Who is? I don't know!!! I think that it is assumed that
curriculum just hapens!<br>
><br>
>Next year my role will change - to help deal with VELs. I will be a
teaching and learning coach with a focus on ICT and still have the program
manager's responsibilities. I will have 9 periods per cycle. We have lost
IT at years 8 and 10, and have had a semester block at year 7 in all of my time
at this school. My role next year will include going into other classes
to help students / staff to cover the integrated IT and to help students to
progress in their skills there. I guess I will be asked advice as well,
since there will not be time to go into as many classes as would like to
utilise my presence.<br>
><br>
>We'll see how it goes next year. I see it as a postion full of
potential and positives, but it may all fall over. I despair that
students will only use the skills that they come in with initially, and I hope
to help them progress.<br>
><br>
>Leanne Biggins<br>
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>________________________________<br>
><br>
>From: ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Meadows, Roslyn M<br>
>Sent: Thu 10/11/2005 1:58 PM<br>
>To: <st1:PersonName tabIndex="0"
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w:st="on">Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management
Teachers'Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
>Subject: ICT Coordinator duties and time allowances<br>
><br>
><br>
>I am currently pushing to have an ICT Coordinator position reinstated in
our school (we have had no position and no time allowance available for this
position this year)<br>
><br>
>Just a quick email asking others briefly<br>
><br>
><br>
>* <br>
> What are your responsibilities?<br>
><br>
>* <br>
> What is your time allowance?<br>
><br>
>Any feedback asap would be really appreciated<br>
><br>
>Cheers<br>
><br>
>Ros Meadows<br>
>Bentleigh SC<br>
>9579 1044<br>
>meadows.roslyn.m@edumail.vic.gov.au<br>
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