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<div>You've encapsulated my thoughts perfectly, Mary. I didn't express myself clearly enough when I mentioned scaffolding. </div>
<div>Not easy though when you have to follow fac policy of TEEL and you disagree with it. So I just agree to disagree and don't use the acronyms. </div>
<div>And you are right - there's been a surge in prescriptive formulas. Leave them to mathematics.</div>
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On 09/09/2012, at 8:05 PM, "Mary Mason" <<a href="mailto:mary.mason@bigpond.com">mary.mason@bigpond.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can I say how much I agree about the difference between scaffolding and TEEL. I cannot think of anything more able to deaden a students voice than TEEL. That
is not to say that some students need structure but to inflict this on the whole class is a recipe for disaster. Every year the examiners talk about how students should not write formulaic responses. Yet it continues. In fact, I would say that TEEL is more
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Reynolds, Gail G<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 9 September 2012 3:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [English] Study Design and Expected Qualities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">I think there is a difference between scaffolding and formula, one is a coathanger for the students' interpretations, the other is a prescriptive format. There may be a (hopefully
temporary) place for the former but none for the latter... <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 9 September 2012 2:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [English] Study Design and Expected Qualities</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Well said about formulas, Gail. We don't want all our students to become 'clones'. Individual interpretation makes reading and writing about texts more engaging. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Instead of TEEL, we need EII. Encourage Individual Interpretation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">I'd better add a disclaimer. These are my personal views and not necessarily those of others with whom I work. Although, I do acknowledge that some weaker students do benefit from having
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On 09/09/2012, at 1:53 PM, "Reynolds, Gail G" <<a href="mailto:reynolds.gail.g@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">reynolds.gail.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Janny is absolutely right, but I'd also add that your interpretation may not be the same as my interpretation but both could be valid if properly supported through reference to
the text. Students should be encouraged to develop their own 'reading' of both text and questions ... and firmly disuaded from formulaic answers like those that a rouge tutor (and bane of my teaching life) is 'teaching' far too many of our students! (grrrrrrr!!!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Back to SAC marking<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">english-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">english-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] on behalf of
<a href="mailto:mccurryj@netspace.net.au" target="_blank">mccurryj@netspace.net.au</a> [<a href="mailto:mccurryj@netspace.net.au" target="_blank">mccurryj@netspace.net.au</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 9 September 2012 11:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I assume that the proposition in the topic represents an interpretation. The range of possible topics suggests a range of possible interpretations, giving more or less weight to different aspects of the text.
I would not assume that, in a given response, the student is necessarily required to 'provide a range of interpretations' but to show the ability to discuss a specific claim about a text. These ideas are picked up again in the specifications to Section A
of the exam in the material that prefaces the 2009 sample exam- the famous four dot points. .
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Cheers, Janny<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On completion of this unit the student should be able to analyse, either orally or in writing, how a selected<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">text constructs meaning, conveys ideas and values, and<em><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> is open to a range of interpretations</span></b></em>. (My italics.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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