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<DIV>Hello Julie and thanks for your response...</DIV>
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<DIV>I don’t have an issue with the key words you identify... though I have a
nagging feeling that the phrase “ from the basis of the text” is redundant. I
mean the exam topic itself invariably refers to the text. Unless it’s
referring to something else, I don’t understand why it’s there. Also your
point about “understanding the text in the wider world”... isn't this a C&P
feature rather than a R&R one? My understanding of an R&R response is
that it deals with the world of the text, not real world elements...</DIV>
<DIV>I also wonder what is meant by “an appropriate strategy for dealing with
it” ... ie the topic; and why marks below 8 don’t need a strategy, appropriate
or otherwise. From your point of view what would such an appropriate strategy
be? Perhaps others also have thoughts on this?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks again,</DIV>
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<DIV>Russell</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bookjewel6@gmail.com
href="mailto:bookjewel6@gmail.com">Julie</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 09, 2012 8:50 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [English] expected qualities</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Russell,</DIV>
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<DIV>The key words in this description, for me, are: 'implications', 'exploring'
and 'complexity'. The thinking associated with these words is quite
sophisticated. While we hope that all students respond 'from the basis of
the text' it is usually clear that the best responses take the ideas so much
further. The basic response 'describes' the ideas in the topic while the best
response moves way beyond this and understands the text in the wider
world. </DIV>
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<DIV>It is hard to explain but when you see the difference in student responses
the difference is more obvious.<BR><BR>Regards,
<DIV>Julie Squires</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On 09/07/2012, at 12:42 PM, <<A
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<DIV>I’m looking at the 2011 Expected Qualities (Reading and Responding) for
exam markers and wonder what people understand by the term... “Demonstrates an
understanding of the implications of the topic...exploring its complexity
<STRONG>from the basis of the text</STRONG>.” I note that this expected
quality is only referred to in the 8-10 mark range. One would like to
think that most students would use the text as the basis for their response;
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=lorrainepaul@hotmail.com
href="mailto:lorrainepaul@hotmail.com">Lorraine Paul</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=english@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:english@edulists.com.au">english@edulists.com.au</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [English] VCE English Teachers and
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<DIV dir=ltr><BR>Thanks Mary. I teach in an independent school. It's nice when
you have forums like this. All the best!<BR><FONT color=#1f497d><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Lorraine
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- I’m sorry. You need to have an edumail address to access the site. You can
be a crt teacher or an employee in a state school.</SPAN></P>
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[mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lorraine
Paul<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 7 July 2012 11:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
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2012 12:58:49 +1000<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:mcclenaghan.douglas.j@edumail.vic.gov.au">mcclenaghan.douglas.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</A><BR>To:
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McClenaghan<BR><BR>>>> Mary Mason<<A
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a group for the Department of Education on designing course materials for
Years 11 and 12 VCE English for State School Teachers. We are also working on
a site on! the Ultranet for teachers new to VCE English. This site will
provide excellent materials for teachers; provide opportunities for them to
ask questions of experienced VCE teachers; participate in a forum with other
teachers; and opportunities to access virtual discussions/lectures on aspects
of the course. We are also hopeful that there could be a forum on it for
collaborative research for VIT projects. We would like to have about 30
teachers from state schools ,who are presently teaching VCE, who would
be willing to trial and help us to build the site so it will be helpful for
teachers. Participation will count towards professional development time
and will, I think, be most interesting. If you are a CRT teacher you are
welcome to join as well. I know it is diffi! cult sometimes for you to pick up
professional development hours. Please contact me directly on my email: <A
href="mailto:mary.mason@bigpond.com">mary.mason@bigpond.com</A> if you are
able to participate. The trial will be in Term 3 and will involve
you loggi! ng into the site, participating in some of the forums, and feeding
back to us your comments.</SPAN></P>
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