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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello to both of you and thankyou for your input. It is nice to know I am not alone with some of the issues I am having. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Katy do you have a document of your underlying philosophy and how do you ensure the sharing happens? Do all teachers follow the same format or do they like to invent or do their own thing? Does everyone use 3 as standard? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Do you use grades A+ - E – on reports…and if so how are they determined? Just on the standard or some other way? (where C is at standard?) When I have used rubrics I do prefer the 5 column to rubistars 4…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Neale <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Like you I am focussing on writing – some teachers have taken on the ‘7 steps’ approach they learned about least year at an inservice. I have been looking at 6 traits + 1 – I do not know which might be the better approach – but having a journal for writing has been our starting point. I am going to try and get more inservicing on teaching writing across the domain. What I am really after though is rubrics – or a common format that teachers can then work from. I like the idea of your extracts approach. I think for us the main thing is not to get so bogged in a text study that everything else suffers. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jenny Gilbert<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>English Coordinator, St Joseph's College Mildura<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://nenifoofer.edublogs.org/"><span style='color:blue'>Blog</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://msgsresources.wikispaces.com/"><span style='color:blue'>Wiki</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/nenifoofer"><span style='color:blue'>Diigo</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jens <a href="http://livebinders.com/edit?id=6500"><span style='color:blue'>PLN at Live Binders</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Twitter - @nenifoofer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> english-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:english-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Skidmore<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 February 2011 12:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> VCE English Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [English] support for yr 7-10 program<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We did a grid, taken from the VELS document, that listed the progressions skill by skill. They DON’T ALWAYS OCCUR (!!!) e.g. Spelling is not mentioned at all levels. <br>We then decided that for each task in class we would assign a specific skill – and assess on a rubric for that skill. On a 5-point rubric, 3 would be “at standard” - e.g. 5.0 and the corresponding/surrounding points would match the surrounding VELS levels. <br>If you use RUBISTAR, you get 4 levels, and I personally use 3 as “at standard”, as being near the “top” encourages the kids.<br>If you want to assess a piece of work for a variety of skills or VELS strands, you modify accordingly, but the assessment becomes less specific.<br>We devise our own rubrics, but share them, as not everyone does the same tasks. However, the underlying philosophy is used across all levels.<br>Cheers – hope that is clear enough!<br>Kathy Skidmore,<br>Wanganui Park SC<br>Shepparton.<br><br><br>On 14/02/11 12:01 PM, "Neale Baker" <<a href="NBaker@sac.vic.edu.au">NBaker@sac.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hi Jenny<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I would be happy to join the discussion. I am in my first year as Head of English and am interested in the same ideas, though I may not have much to offer so far...<br>We are going to look at assessment sheets too as we have a million and one different varieties so we want to have some common ground for consistency and also to have the students have some idea of what we require.<br>Briefly, overview we seem to handle the text analysis side of English quite well and preparing studenyts for writng essays. For us this year, we are concentrating more on writing, creatively I suppose as looking at our Y12 results the context is the area we atre down.. We use short forms at Y7-10 using extracts from authors as models for their own writing, poetry and prose. This seems to be working quite well. Studnets anecdotal feedback is quite positive.<br>Does this help? I will check your twitter feed as well<br></span><br><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Neale Baker<br><b>Head of English<br></b>Sacré Cœur<br>172 Burke Road, Glen Iris, Australia 3146<br>Phone: 613 9835 2724 FAX: 613 9885 5936<br>Email: <a href="nbaker@sac.vic.edu.au">nbaker@sac.vic.edu.au</a><br><a href="http://www.sacrecoeur.vic.edu.au">www.sacrecoeur.vic.edu.au</a></span> <<a href="http://www.sacrecoeur.vic.edu.au/">http://www.sacrecoeur.vic.edu.au/</a>> <br> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="english-bounces@edulists.com.au">english-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="english-bounces@edulists.com.au">english-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Jenny Gilbert [<a href="nenifoofer@gmail.com">nenifoofer@gmail.com</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 12 February 2011 8:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'VCE English Teachers' Mailing List'<br><b>Subject:</b> [English] support for yr 7-10 program<br><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi<br></span><br><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I know this list is for VCE but I am hopeful some people may like to share with me off list what goes on in year 7-10 in their schools. I am no going into my third year as domain leader and I have a real bee in my bonnet. I want to prepare a complete scope and sequence for 7-10 that clearly goves the big picture and determines the common ground we work from at the school level. I am struggling with the best way to format or lay this out – I have seen a good example from NSW – but that isn’t quite what I need since the underlying core standards are different from the VELS. Would you care to share such a map of what your school is doing? <br></span><br><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am also after examples of assessment sheets – the model we use was originally prepared for VELS recording and blending this with grading. Having used it for a number of years we are finding it is not a useful tool for students or their parents for lots of reasons I do not wish to into. I know there is no perfect beast for this – but if you are prepared to share what your school does I would greatly appreciate it. I am genuinely interested in those of you using rubrics – what do you have one them – how do you ‘score’ them. There are I know thousands of examples online but most seem linked to everyone else’s curriculum. Finding those that specifically identify objectives based on VELS PP’s is something I have not succeeded at when it comes to seeing what others do. Any advice/example would be appreciated. <br></span><br><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In return If you are a twitter user you will see I use #vceeng to share resources. Please join me. Thanks<br></span><br> <br><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jenny Gilbert<br></span><br><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>English Coordinator, St Joseph's College Mildura<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>Blog</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <<a href="http://nenifoofer.edublogs.org/">http://nenifoofer.edublogs.org/</a>> <br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>Wiki</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <<a href="http://msgsresources.wikispaces.com/">http://msgsresources.wikispaces.com/</a>> <br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>Diigo</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <<a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/nenifoofer">http://www.diigo.com/user/nenifoofer</a>> <br>Jens </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue'>PLN at Live Binders</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <<a href="http://livebinders.com/edit?id=6500">http://livebinders.com/edit?id=6500</a>> <br>Twitter - @nenifoofer<br></span><br> <br> <br> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br><br>Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.<br><a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg">http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg</a><br><br>Report this message as spam <<a href="https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1BHbJMwuc5/5pdL0kFUOxOyb31Tsa8yG2/0.002">https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1BHbJMwuc5/5pdL0kFUOxOyb31Tsa8yG2/0.002</a>> <br> <br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br>Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.<br><a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg">http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg</a><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><hr size=3 width="95%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas'>_______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au">http://www.edulists.com.au</a> - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe<br>VCE English Teachers' Mailing List kindly supported by<br><a href="http://www.vate.org.au">http://www.vate.org.au</a> - Victorian Association for the Teaching of English VATE and<br><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/index.html">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/index.html</a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><b>Important - </b>This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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