<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Thanks for the great advice Brett, Jamie and Roland. I'm trying to weigh up my options now.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The iTunes radio seems like less hassle to setup and will be more realistic if we don't have an old server. However, I think you need iTunes to listen to their radio, which is a small barrier and it is a hefty application for slower machines too.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">The quality of the streams in the Icecast directory seem pretty awesome to me. If you have a dedicated server with Icecast in the school it should run quickly within it and put less load on the network too. Brett which application did you use to transmit your recordings to the server. I thought iCast Pro looked interesting for recording material from you iPhone!</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 19px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Thanks,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-size: 19px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">John</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Monday, 8 September 2014, 14:02, "Groves, Brett G" <groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0266282025"><style>#yiv0266282025 #yiv0266282025 --
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<div class="yiv0266282025MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">You can set up an Icecast server very easily, see here http://www. icecast.org/</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">It’s all open source and runs on any modest native box, basically you old dunger you were throwing out will run it. Students can listen via VLC by specifying a network stream
or you can create a page for the stream and run it off a webserver. There is a mountain of free support material around for it.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv0266282025MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">The music will be much more problematic than the technical aspects of the set up. If you limit the stream to inside your network, ie keep the icecast server
inside the DMZ with no external IP then you could probably use the schools copyright assignment agreement to cover you. In Victoria for example the state government contributes to a scheme that reimburses producers for notional re use of their work in certain
circumstances. For example recording and re broadcasting free to air TV within the organisation for the purposes of education. Might be worth investigating if such an agreement exists in China and whether your school is part of a larger body that is a signatory
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<div class="yiv0266282025MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">If you intend to broadcast externally you’ll need to contact the Chinese equivalent of APRA to work out royalty fees, they may have a blanket cover fee based
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<div class="yiv0266282025MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Hope that helps a bit.</span></div>
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iTunes sounds like a great option. I am working at a start up school in China there may be issues with setting up a HAM radio station here. </span></div>
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