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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Andrew, I think another option is one that allows students to Bring or Borrow… so if they can’t afford an appropriate device to do the job the school should
have a bank which can be borrowed for longer terms. That way they are not missing the opportunities for developing skills with a range of devices which will always be useful in the workforce. With the majority of students bringing their own, you would hope
the capital outlay is not prohibitive<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:elearning-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roland Gesthuizen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 September 2012 12:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> elearning Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Cc:</b> elearning Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [elearning] Query on iPad research<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Oddly enough I can touch type on an iPad, the autocorrect seems to fix up most of my errors (And inserts a few howlers) It took me a while to learn to train my fingers to not wander. By contrast I use the text dictation of Dragon or Siri
to record larger slabs of text by just talking to my device. Have done both here using just these tools, perhaps to prove a point ;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Of course I can do better with a desktop, or laptop, but not dressed in full Medieval costume in a corner of our fair learning-centre castle or outside testing trebuchet models we built in science (as I am)<br>
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On 07/09/2012, at 11:17 AM, Andrew Shortell <<a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">shortell@get2me.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">i find it easy to use touch typing on ipad when it is in landscape mode - in portrait mode my fingers are just too fat!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I asked my year 12 class and my unit 2 classes about iPads in vce<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">vast majority were in favour of BYOD - a few queried the problems for people who could not afford a D -- general consensus was hang on to their iPad from 7-10 or 7-9<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They all felt that iPads were good for 7-9 (even though they had not had them in 7-9) but preferred a machine with more grunt in 11 & 12 ...!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Most want eBooks but a few prefer the concept of using dead trees not electronic.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 07/09/2012, at 11:11 AM, Antoinette Siarabalos <<a href="mailto:asiara@bigpond.com">asiara@bigpond.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a very timely discussion now happing at my school, Emmaus college. So I appreciate everyone's thoughts here and agree with the advantages of having such a mobile device in 7-9. However, there are challenges with creation of many
tasks with the iPad. I don't like the 2 finger typing situation on iPad when I am a touch typist. Let's face it there are still tasks that are better suited to laptops or desktops. So I guess my question is if schools are now going in the direction of iPads
, what planning is there for high end creation tasks? Upgrading labs, laptop trolleys?
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Granted they may not be used as often but they will still be needed. This comment is obviously not directed to schools that have laptop programs in place.<br>
Also of you had written a strategic plan for ict 2 years, my guess is, it would now be obsolete.<br>
Interesting times ahead for all in this never ending changing landscape.<br>
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Antoinette<br>
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Antoinette Siarabalos<br>
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On 06/09/2012, at 5:23 PM, Roland Gesthuizen <<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I recall Richard Olson during an Edtech Crew podcast noted that we<br>
need to be keenly aware that student needs will eventually shift<br>
towards more powerful devices. My thinking was that by VCE some would<br>
eventually decide to use more powerful laptops. Each could pick what<br>
would best suits their study, needs or budget .. or perhaps to not<br>
pick one. I can imagine that many could still rely on their old junior<br>
school iPad (or smart phone) for mLearning, personal organisation and<br>
reading etc. I like how this NZ school is handling it. There are<br>
others I can dig up and share if you like.<br>
<a href="http://www.kristin.school.nz/web/portal/ict-services/digital-learning-programmes">http://www.kristin.school.nz/web/portal/ict-services/digital-learning-programmes</a><br>
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If we accept that different streams of students at the senior levels<br>
will have different needs, we should not try to resolve this with a<br>
single package to fix and accept that in the following year, we should<br>
have prepared them for the digital citizenship and independence of<br>
learning and working whilst away from a single corporate network.<br>
Maybe the iPads presents us with the right timing and opportunity to<br>
finally allow students to manage their devices and develop their<br>
skills as independent and responsible learners if they eventually step<br>
up to their own powerful device.<br>
<a href="http://ipadeducators.ning.com/profiles/blogs/device-control">http://ipadeducators.ning.com/profiles/blogs/device-control</a><br>
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Regards Roland<br>
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On 5 September 2012 22:47, Kevork Krozian <<a href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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A typo below. Unanimous choice for learning, studying and interacting by<br>
the Yr 12s was the laptop/MacBook. None favoured the iPad.<br>
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Kevork Krozian<br>
Edulists Creator Administrator<br>
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