Thank you James, Sue and Geoffrey, some good replies and ideas to reflect upon. :-)<div><br></div><div>Regards Roland<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 March 2012 09:15, Lee, James q <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lee.james.q@edumail.vic.gov.au">lee.james.q@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Prohibition never has, and never will work. People always find a way around restrictions, and in fact acts as a kind of reverse psychology (you want what you can't have (access to) ).<br>
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I believe that rather than controlling the usage of technology, we should be teaching good habits on how to use it appropriately and effectively. I tell students that using the school computers is a privilege, not a right; that ICT can be taught without computers if need be, and thus should show respect using the equipment. If students want to use something questionable, if they ask permission first and can explain a good rationale for using it, then I allow it. This is better than a blanket ban on certain websites and digital equipment, and allows greater flexibility in teaching and learning. It also reflects more real life practices, since what is to stop students accessing the resources at home (ever told the student "oh facebook's/youtube's blocked, so you should download the facebook photo/youtube clip you want to work on when you get home, then bring it back on a usb stick next class?". Does that make any sense at all?)<br>
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The notion of ?control for control?s sake? is alive and well in many schools.<br>
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Rather like teaching someone to express themselves through painting but only allowing the use of, say, 4 colours.<br>
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I still have vivid memories in primary school of being belted across the knuckles for daring to use coloured chalk (yes I know, I?m that old, alas) on my chalk board when we were told to only use white; couldn?t see why. ?<br>
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I have to agree that our desire to control the use of all technology sounds a deeper problem. Exactly who are we making decisions based on the needs of? Regards Roland<br>
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* It's time to let go of the notion that we need to control student behavior. It's time to realize that we cannot and should not dictate the manner in which students learn. One area where the desire for control is clearly manifested is our use of technology in school.<br>
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Hehehe I was looking for the ?like? button?. I have nothing to add apart from I am all for releasing control?. It does take people out of their comfort zone, hehehe?.<br>
Disruptive teaching and learning<br>
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The notion of ?control for control?s sake? is alive and well in many schools.<br>
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Rather like teaching someone to express themselves through painting but only allowing the use of, say, 4 colours.<br>
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I still have vivid memories in primary school of being belted across the knuckles for daring to use coloured chalk (yes I know, I?m that old, alas) on my chalk board when we were told to only use white; couldn?t see why. ?<br>
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I have to agree that our desire to control the use of all technology sounds a deeper problem. Exactly who are we making decisions based on the needs of? Regards Roland<br>
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Making the Case for Student Controlled Devices - iPads in Education<<a href="http://diigo.com/0p332" target="_blank">http://diigo.com/0p332</a>><br>
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* It's time to let go of the notion that we need to control student behavior. It's time to realize that we cannot and should not dictate the manner in which students learn. One area where the desire for control is clearly manifested is our use of technology in school.<br>
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