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Well put Stuart, my thoughts as well. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think that as a body of professionals, should we not hear soon, some form of resolution from the VCAA, we put forward a uniformed response through DATTA Vic?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My personal opinion is that it is unreasonable and unrealistic that sections 6-9 be assessed.
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Access to facilities, staff, materials and time will differ across schools<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ability for students to travel to and from school without impacting other subjects due to travel times etc will be challenging and counter
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I am sure there are many more reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Students and Staff need direction and certainty. I know that there are big decisions to be made but surely after the first lockdown, a contingent plan was made should there be another lockdown.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just my thoughts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Design and Technology] destech Digest, Vol 183, Issue 32<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hi,<br>
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For systems Engineering, I think it's going to be all but impossible to finish or complete part of the practical SAT models. I highly doubt we can even complete testing of "the control aspect" of our models.<br>
So there is criteria 4-7 gone! Criteria 8 is about the project evaluations....not sure how this can be done without further constuctions of project models.<br>
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I have no idea how VCAA expect us to assess the SAT for criterias 4-8.<br>
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Criteria's 1-3 has been assessed though, so that's something.<br>
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My unit 3/4 students are chomping at the bit for information. I can't provide any. All we can do is prepare for exams and hope they will be able to do those!<br>
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Good luck everyone! Tough times.<br>
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Brendan D’Arcy (TNBD)<br>
Senior School Teacher<br>
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Level A-E Design & Systems Technology and Mathematics<br>
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Hi all -<br>
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Is anyone hearing any rumblings from the VCAA around modifications to practical components yet? I know that in some of the 20 studies affected by practical Unit 4 content, it's going to have a big impact.<br>
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>From the chats I've had with VCAA so far, and just in general updates from their publications, this is the advice:<br>
<br>
"The examination dates provide sufficient time for teachers and students to complete adjusted VCE Unit 4 learning and school-based assessments, and to adequately prepare for the examinations. They also allow for VCE and VCAL students to receive their results
and ATARs on 30 December as per the current schedule."<br>
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Thoughts? I feel like we have been given a lovely extra 2 weeks or so in Term 4, but our Unit 4 SAT (around 33% of their year mark) was predominantly unchanged barring the exceptions on conducting first person materials tests, and the vague direction that
we could make a prototype instead (despite having no documentation of that being sufficient in the modified study design, and leaving aside that a prototype needs to use the same scale/equivalent processes but exchanging materials/technologies).<br>
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Anyone heard anything better, or more complete?<br>
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My students completed the calico toile for the preferred option and are now doing the working drawing and the scheduled production plan for the final product, which is criteria 4. Obviously they will not be able to complete the final product.<br>
Part of criteria 5 - how the product would be manufactured in industry can be done as well, which my students have already done.<br>
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Hi,<br>
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For systems Engineering, I think it's going to be all but impossible to finish or complete part of the practical SAT models. I highly doubt we can even complete testing of "the control aspect" of our models.<br>
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I have no idea how VCAA expect us to assess the SAT for criterias 4-8.<br>
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Criteria's 1-3 has been assessed though, so that's something.<br>
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Hi all -<br>
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Is anyone hearing any rumblings from the VCAA around modifications to practical components yet? I know that in some of the 20 studies affected by practical Unit 4 content, it's going to have a big impact.<br>
<br>
>From the chats I've had with VCAA so far, and just in general updates from their publications, this is the advice:<br>
<br>
"The examination dates provide sufficient time for teachers and students to complete adjusted VCE Unit 4 learning and school-based assessments, and to adequately prepare for the examinations. They also allow for VCE and VCAL students to receive their results
and ATARs on 30 December as per the current schedule."<br>
<br>
Thoughts? I feel like we have been given a lovely extra 2 weeks or so in Term 4, but our Unit 4 SAT (around 33% of their year mark) was predominantly unchanged barring the exceptions on conducting first person materials tests, and the vague direction that
we could make a prototype instead (despite having no documentation of that being sufficient in the modified study design, and leaving aside that a prototype needs to use the same scale/equivalent processes but exchanging materials/technologies).<br>
<br>
Anyone heard anything better, or more complete?<br>
<br>
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As of yet, no. To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been any clear instruction or directive with how teachers move forward with the prac element - U4O2 and obviously this will have an impact on U4O3 SAT.<br>
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The SAC is ok, we can do that remotely under strict times and probably best to offer as an 'open book'.<br>
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My Year 12 are becoming anxious as they really want to make their products...<br>
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At this stage, as soon as students have completed the SAC, we will begin to prep for the exam...<br>
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Student's are finalising SAT criteria 4-5...<br>
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<br>
Is anyone hearing any rumblings from the VCAA around modifications to practical components yet? I know that in some of the 20 studies affected by practical Unit 4 content, it's going to have a big impact.<br>
<br>
>From the chats I've had with VCAA so far, and just in general updates from their publications, this is the advice:<br>
<br>
"The examination dates provide sufficient time for teachers and students to complete adjusted VCE Unit 4 learning and school-based assessments, and to adequately prepare for the examinations. They also allow for VCE and VCAL students to receive their results
and ATARs on 30 December as per the current schedule."<br>
<br>
Thoughts? I feel like we have been given a lovely extra 2 weeks or so in Term 4, but our Unit 4 SAT (around 33% of their year mark) was predominantly unchanged barring the exceptions on conducting first person materials tests, and the vague direction that
we could make a prototype instead (despite having no documentation of that being sufficient in the modified study design, and leaving aside that a prototype needs to use the same scale/equivalent processes but exchanging materials/technologies).<br>
<br>
Anyone heard anything better, or more complete?<br>
<br>
<br>
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