<div dir="ltr">Thank you for your positive response. I am using these head start weeks and a few weeks next year to go through OH&S although I am still concerned about the class size and not seeing what everyone is doing<div><br></div><div>Julie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 December 2016 at 08:25, Kaylen Kornberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:KNK@mentonegrammar.net" target="_blank">KNK@mentonegrammar.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>That's a wise move for your first year of teaching this. I've taught it for over 25 yrs but with OH&S rules and schools just getting bigger it's getting harder to keep practical and hands on subjects going. That sounds like a great project. Good luck with
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<div>I am teaching woodwork for the first time this year and have 3 classes of 26 students. Basically I have made a no power tool rule at least for first term until I get to know the kids and they get to know me. We are doing a reclaimed item they must bring
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<div>Wow. How on earth do you cope with that number? What projects do you do to make It easier to supervise them all?<br>
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<div>We have year 7 & 8 classes that usually reach 25, 26 or 27 students. Year 9 at 22 and year 10-12 capped at 20 students. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Hi Kaylen,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Here is some information I received last year over a similar question I had. Hope it is helpful. Craig.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_7560278917807941771_m_-8364944295545909894__Toc384280554"></a><a name="m_7560278917807941771_m_-8364944295545909894__Toc384212300"></a><b><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Class Size</span></u></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The<b>
</b><i>Victorian Government Schools Agreement</i> (2013) has the following information in relation to class sizes.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The principal, as the Employer’s representative, will use the consultation provisions of this agreement when considering the class sizes in a school.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">It is recognised that there are varied forms of teaching arrangements (including practical classes, team teaching and lecture tutorials) and different structural options,
(including P-12 arrangements, senior school arrangements and senior campuses) that optimise student learning opportunities. In addition, the organisation of teaching should provide and maintain, so far as is practicable, a working environment that is safe
and without risks to health. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">In this context, and within the fixed resources provided to schools and the physical facilities schedule, class size should be planned on the minimum possible. Provided that
class sizes should be planned generally on the following basis: <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:70.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">P to 6 - an average of 26 provided that the average class size of 21 at P-2 is maintained;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:70.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">7 to 12 – groups of up to 25 students.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Practical class sizes
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:70.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Schools are required to provide and maintain, so far as is practicable, a working environment that is safe and without risks to health.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:70.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>d.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Schools should plan for the minimum practical class sizes possible given available resources. Practical class sizes should be determined having regard to the nature of the
activities, the nature of the equipment used, the maturity and competence of the students and the capabilities of the teacher to provide expert supervision.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:70.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><span>e.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">A practical class includes a subject or course where the use of equipment and/or material of a potentially dangerous nature is involved and/or a class in which students are
undertaking manual or other tasks requiring greater individual supervision of the classroom activity.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">As such, it is up to the principal to determine appropriate class sizes with consideration to nature of the activities, the nature of the equipment used, the maturity and
competence of the students and the capabilities of the teacher to provide expert supervision. Some of these factors are expanded further below.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Class Spacing and Layout</span></u></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The workplace must ensure that spacing is assessed when determining whether an art, design or technology area is appropriate. This includes assessing:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The overall size of the room</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> – can all of the required equipment, students and school employees
physically fit into the space. An assessment of the space should include:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">effective walkways;<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">lines of site;<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">additional space for the effective use of plant and equipment;<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">additional space to allow for the handling of materials (e.g. moving timber);<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">additional space required for materials storage; and<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">additional space required for the storage of works/projects that are in progress or completed.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Spacing around Individual Plant and Equipment</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> – can each item of plant and equipment be used
safely and efficiently with respect to spacing? In general, it is recommended that there is at least 800mm free space around the point of use of any plant. This is taken from
<i>Compliance Code - Workplace Amenities and Work Environment</i> (Worksafe Victoria, September 2008) which states:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">‘Movement in and around workstations needs to be free of obstructions such as plant, furniture, materials or other employees. Employers need to ensure that the space for
employees to move and work between plant, equipment, structures and materials is at least 800mm. This is to enable employees to work safely between machines, benches or counters. It will also allow them to evacuate quickly in an emergency.’</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Figure
</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">1: Space required around plant</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><image001.jpg></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">It should be noted that 800mm is only a general recommendation. The operation of the specific plant should be taken into account when determining appropriate spacing. For
example a drop saw may require more space to either side to allow for the material being cut. Conversely, a fully enclosed CNC machine may only require 800mm.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Layout of the Room</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> – has the layout of the room been considered in terms of:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Frequency of plant and equipment use.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Are the most frequently used items easily accessible?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Are the most frequently used items grouped together? Could this cause congestion?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Location of higher risk equipment or activities. Are higher risk equipment or tasks located in an easily visible location, to enable active supervision,
or located away from high traffic walkways?<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Location of store areas. Does the location of stored materials have any impact on the placement of plant/equipment and/or activities?<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Project progression. Have plant/equipment and/or activities been located so that minimum movement is required. This would be especially relevant
when one task logically follows on from another (e.g. clay storage </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">è</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> potter’s wheel
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">è</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""> kiln).<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Overall, when determining the layout of a room, operations within that room must be able to be completed safely.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Presently we are undergoing some changes at school and our wood tech class sizes have increased dramatically. Can I have some indication of what other schools’ class sizes are capped at for yrs 7-9 please as I am really
concerned about OH&S issues and the size of the room as we can only fit 10 rectangular benches in the space. Also, is there a specific distance between benches that is documented that can be used as a guide?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks so much everyone as I am getting a bit stressed about all of this.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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