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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My feelings are it is about teaching them as designers to directly acknowledge where there inspiration comes from. If they are not directly acknowledging each image then the connection
between the image and the designer/ source is not clear. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It is a habit that they should develop from early years. I find most a pretty good at it by V.C.E.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I tell my students that saying you got the information from Google images or Pintrest is like saying you got the information from the library.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Most sources can be pretty quickly identified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Melissa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> destech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:destech-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jo Roszkowski<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 2 February 2016 1:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> destech@edulists.com.au; jacinta.oleary@gmail.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Design and Technology] Bibliography for images<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">This is a little contrary to what I've told my students in the past - that some acknowledgement is better than no acknowledgment at all..... i.e.. a bibliography at the end
of the folio...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> with students using search engines like Google or even Pinterest they would often need to dig VERY deep to get to the original source if that image has been shared through
a few blogs etc... and in the end may put them off using a great picture. What do other teachers think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Cheers, Jo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span class="groupwisereplyheader">>>> "Jacinta O'Leary" <<a href="mailto:jacinta.oleary@gmail.com">jacinta.oleary@gmail.com</a>> 02/02/16 11:48 AM >>></span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">HI Liz<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Remember that a bibliography is not required for the SAT, it's the citing of sources and acknowledgement of IP that is required. A bibliography is good for sources of information
and of course can be included, however, acknowledging the IP of a person's work is best done next to the image<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I believe that in the SAT, acknowledgement should be done nearby. For example, if a student has a lot of information about materials then the sources could go straight under
it. If the students has images of some-one's work, then it should be very clear on the same page whose work it is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Also, saying that the image came from Google Images is not acknowledging the creator of the work. Students need to dig deeper. Of course this is far easier in fashion than
for furniture, but students can still attempt to at least find the company that manufactures furniture if not the designer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">hope this isn't too confusing and helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">regards, Jacinta<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Elizabeth Keep <<a href="mailto:elizabethk@toorakc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">elizabethk@toorakc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I have a query about the bibliography for the SAT. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">What bibliography method are you getting your students to use for sighting images. Is it okay just to have the URL or do they need more info?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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