<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style>
<![endif]--><o:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="PlaceType"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="place"/>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="PersonName"/>
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
</style>
<![endif]-->
<style>
<!--
v\:* {}
v\:* {}
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Verdana;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-believe-normal-left:yes;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:Arial;
color:navy;}
@page Section1
{size:595.3pt 841.9pt;
margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</style>
<![if mso 9]>
<style>
p.MsoNormal
{margin-left:7.5pt;}
</style>
<![endif]><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body bgcolor=white lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=blue style='margin-left:7.5pt;
margin-top:3.75pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt'>
<div class=Section1>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jeff Donavan, can you contact Greg Wallis.
wallg@whc.vic.edu.au<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:center'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
destech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:destech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Donovan, Jeff J<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 18 May 2007 9:42<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Design
and Technology Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Design and
Technology] Technology education teacher training</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div id=idOWAReplyText25380>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Not mention the 4 years apprenticeship and 5 years industrial
experience for us old tech teachers!!!!!!!</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:center'><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
destech-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Roger Knight<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thu 10/05/2007 8:45 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Design
and Technology Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Design and
Technology] Technology education teacher training</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<div id=idOWAReplyText20472>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>How about 6 hours per week for one entire semester, of building
construction including safe use of static and portable machines, drafting, hand
tools etc. etc. ( B/Ed B/Tech) <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Ballarat</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>? I think you
need to check whets on offer more thoroughly before assuming that the
"good old days" were the golden era. </span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The problems faced
by tech teachers nowadays are much more complex than they seem sometimes. The
real problem is that because of the breadth of material that can be covered it
is humanly impossible to train people in 4 years and expect them to be able to
cover every requirement of the curriculum.</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The single biggest
problem we have in technology is teachers who occupy positions and refuse to
take on extra study and training to keep themselves relevant and useful to our
kids. We can't afford to rest on our laurels once the degree is under our belt
and we have a secure job. We have to get out there and behave professionally
and get training if we need it.</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Cheers ... Roger</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div id=idSignature42715>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1
color=olive face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:olive'>Roger Knight</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1
color=olive face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:olive'>Technology Dept.</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1
color=olive face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:olive'>St Patrick's College</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1
color=olive face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:olive'>Locked Bag 31 </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1
color=olive face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:olive'>BALLARAT 3350 VIC</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1
color=olive face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:olive'>5331 1688</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1
color=olive face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:olive'><a href="mailto:rknight@stpats.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">rknight@stpats.vic.edu.au</a></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;
text-align:center'><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> destech-bounces@edulists.com.au
on behalf of Ripley, Robert R<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wed 5/9/2007 8:31 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Design
and Technology Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Design and
Technology] Technology education teacher training</span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<div id=idOWAReplyText48076>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=3
color=black face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Oh how the wheel has turned ... 'in the old days',
8-10 x 4 hour units - Safe Use of Woodworking machinery, Portable Power Tools,
Woodturning for Teachers, etc were conducted as the required part of the Tech
Teachers Training course at the Hawthorn Institute of Education, that is, until
the University of Melbourne swallowed it.</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>